Like, having the same Gladiator/M+15 mounts as recolors for the 2 years of an expansion is not a big motivation to push hard every season IF one does not enjoy that content for real in the first place (e.g. I play rated PvP for the better itemlvl, not because it is fun)
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Replying to @NicaraoGaming
Ye it's coming in 9.0.5 but max ilvl is 220 for now. They need to rise the ilvl to pvp/raiding ilvl. What do you mean for pvp for the casual bg players? Yeah the recolours arent as exiting but also good for players who may have not the time to push every season.
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Replying to @DaFlowG
Casual PvP players are those who cant or dont want to play rated PvP. Thus, they are limited to itemlvl 197 for honor and 200 for conquest points (which are more difficult to get for them). Because gear matters they have bad changes against rated players or even PvE players.
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Replying to @NicaraoGaming
ye but u need atleast to do smth to get gear. U cant do WQ only and expect to be 225 ilvl^^
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Replying to @DaFlowG
WQ players wouldnt care, since they dont need better gear to do story quests and world quests. But in random BGs there is a direct confrontation, these players get annihilated because of the better gear of rated/M+/Raid players.
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Replying to @NicaraoGaming
i mean if u play random bgs why cant u play rated bgs? or invest 1h a week to do a key to get better loot in the vault. if u play casual u still gotta do smth to get gear
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Replying to @DaFlowG
you need a group. I had issues finding one even with RBG Gladiator, PUGing is toxic and shity, its even more fckd up than M+ :D But thats the issue: people with little time dont want to grind shit to be able to enjoy what they really want to play
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Replying to @NicaraoGaming
i feel u mate, but its still an mmorpg and this type of game needs time. i know its not fun to pug m+/rbgs but if u wanna play the game its needed. i mean what should be the solution? how you wanna fix a problem for ppl with less time which wouldnt get completely abused
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Replying to @DaFlowG @NicaraoGaming
The other thing is what do you consider endgame? Is it 2,4k+ PvP Rating, Top 500 Raidguilds? Lets say u are a ~ Top 800 Raider - u got idk 9h of Raiding weekly, just do 1 key and ur daily stuff everyday. So u gotta invest around 17h a week to do everything needed.
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Replying to @DaFlowG
IMHO the endgame pillars (in a competitive sense) are Rated PvP (Arena, RBG), M+ Dungeons, and Normal+ Raiding.
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If someone wants to do any of those, that player should not be/feel forced to do any of the others. If someone is completely "casual", doing Unrated PvP, < M0 Dungeons, LFR Raid, (World)Quests, he should be/feel forced to do any of those competitive endgame activities.
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