NicaraoGaming

Valor points come already at 9.0.5 isn't it? IF we get that change for PvP gearing it would be nice for the casual BG players, which is important IMHO. Yes, you are right, this stuff is really good. That makes the gearing system better, but the question is if there is motivation

Like, having the same Gladiator/M+15 mounts as recolors for the 2 years of an expansion is not a big motivation to push hard every season IF one does not enjoy that content for real in the first place (e.g. I play rated PvP for the better itemlvl, not because it is fun)

Ye it's coming in 9.0.5 but max ilvl is 220 for now. They need to rise the ilvl to pvp/raiding ilvl. What do you mean for pvp for the casual bg players? Yeah the recolours arent as exiting but also good for players who may have not the time to push every season.

Casual PvP players are those who cant or dont want to play rated PvP. Thus, they are limited to itemlvl 197 for honor and 200 for conquest points (which are more difficult to get for them). Because gear matters they have bad changes against rated players or even PvE players.

ye but u need atleast to do smth to get gear. U cant do WQ only and expect to be 225 ilvl^^

WQ players wouldnt care, since they dont need better gear to do story quests and world quests. But in random BGs there is a direct confrontation, these players get annihilated because of the better gear of rated/M+/Raid players.

i mean if u play random bgs why cant u play rated bgs? or invest 1h a week to do a key to get better loot in the vault. if u play casual u still gotta do smth to get gear

you need a group. I had issues finding one even with RBG Gladiator, PUGing is toxic and shity, its even more fckd up than M+ :D But thats the issue: people with little time dont want to grind shit to be able to enjoy what they really want to play