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    1.  🤡 this time will be different  🤡‏ @cemerick Apr 14
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      crowd, watching Microsoft buy key pieces of developer infra and commodify them as complements to proprietary extensions and azure, etc: 👏😍🎊👏😍🎊👏😍🎊👏😍 me:pic.twitter.com/GYHGM5ZDDY

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    2. Brandon Bloom‏ @BrandonBloom Apr 14
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      I mean, for all the flaws of the cloud, it's a much more honest business in an open-source dominated world. "You're not going to pay for our goods anyway, so we'll charge you for our services." Although, if I were Amazon/Google, I'd be terrified. Microsoft is fucking coming 4 u.

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    3.  🤡 this time will be different  🤡‏ @cemerick Apr 14
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      More honest than what, though? GCP sure seems destined to be an also-ran, especially considered globally.

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    4. Brandon Bloom‏ @BrandonBloom Apr 14
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      Maybe "honest" isn't the right word, but I'm not sure what else to call it. It converts fixed costs in to variables costs. ie you pay for resource usage instead of purchasing hardware and licenses. The cost of R&D is amortized, easing the onramp, which helps smaller customers.

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    5.  🤡 this time will be different  🤡‏ @cemerick Apr 14
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      That's just engineering capex into opex. (Similarly, renting a copy of photoshop by the month instead of a license purchase) Often a useful thing, but I don't think there's a connection there vis a vis proprietary-or-not or some other axis of honesty/virtue.

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    6.  🤡 this time will be different  🤡‏ @cemerick Apr 14
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      The MS strategy here is actually "worse" since they now have multiple routes for metering/controlling usage (features + provisioned infra svcs) It's a whole new layer of lock-in vs old-school proprietary software, which at least let you walk workloads over to different providers

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    7. Brandon Bloom‏ @BrandonBloom Apr 14
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      I'm not endorsing Microsoft here, just playing devil's advocate and discussing the landscape. One nice thing I will say about their strategy vs, say Amazon's, is that they are actually incentivized to care about developer experience. AWS has traditionally not invested there.

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    8.  🤡 this time will be different  🤡‏ @cemerick Apr 14
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      Replying to @BrandonBloom

      sure, likewise

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    9.  🤡 this time will be different  🤡‏ @cemerick Apr 14
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      a focus on dev exp is part of what drives the strategy. Operating in an insular yet featureful ecosytem brings a ton of leverage just from eliminating integration complexity and other waste like standardization efforts. all-in MS ISVs have been very happy for a loooong time

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    10. Brandon Bloom‏ @BrandonBloom Apr 14
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      Yeah, I gotta say, I really really miss the .NET stack in a lot of respects.

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       💻 🐴Ngnghm‏ @Ngnghm Apr 14
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      For those with no experience in this stack, can you explain what it did right (and wrong that may not be obvious)?

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        2. Brandon Bloom‏ @BrandonBloom Apr 14
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          Over simplifying: 1) 2nd mover advantage. Most (though not all) of the things that Java got right, it also got right. Many of the obvious things Java got wrong, it fixed. 2)Really excellent vertical integration of languages, IDE, database, web server, etc. One-stop shopping.

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        3.  🤡 this time will be different  🤡‏ @cemerick Apr 14
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          The ISV aspect carried over seamlessly too, i.e. a culture of interoperable commercial component distribution that helped fill all the gaps that aren't satisfied by the platform, and in areas that OSS devs generally find unattractive

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