In the time of quarantine, I've started to read Persian mystics. I'm now convinced more than ever that they were all insurgent philosophers under hypercamouflage. Who says 'اَهدِم الکعبه' unless a true promethean who wants human storm the heavens?
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza
of course that’s the weakest most superficial reading of that statement lol
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Replying to @khalidbinyaqub @NegarestaniReza
it’s also an incredible generalization, Hallaj you could arguably call an ‘insurgent’ but there was emphatically no “camoflague” involved there. In later centuries the kind of sentiments you’ve quoted are tropes and clichés
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Replying to @khalidbinyaqub @NegarestaniReza
many persian sufis actually state their beliefs about god in their ‘prose’ writings, which while far more complex and variegated than this silly idea of “humanity storming the heavens,” generally follow some permutation of wahdat al-wujud
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Replying to @khalidbinyaqub
You are most probably an Islamist. Hallaj was extremely careful to not reveal his philosophical alliances until his return from the third hajj when he was under the influence of Babouyeh and Nobakhti took a more confrontational stance.
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza
that’s a funny response— since your reading is an unqualified projection of your own beliefs my response must be a form of “islamism” lol. If by Babouyeh you mean al-Qummi, he was at most a toddler by the time of Hallaj’s death, so his influence must have been quite supernatural
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Replying to @khalidbinyaqub @NegarestaniReza
as for Nobakhti, i presume the ‘influence’ relationship you mean is adversarial, i’d be interested in any other take on it. tbh both of the figures you name were basically extremely well connected courtier-clerics, way less ‘insurgent’ than Hallaj
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Replying to @khalidbinyaqub
They were, but they egged him on to take a more theological / heretical immamion route.
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza @khalidbinyaqub
do you guys know what hallaç pamuğu mean?
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That's actually what the word means. His father was into that business.
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