In the time of quarantine, I've started to read Persian mystics. I'm now convinced more than ever that they were all insurgent philosophers under hypercamouflage. Who says 'اَهدِم الکعبه' unless a true promethean who wants human storm the heavens?
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza
of course that’s the weakest most superficial reading of that statement lol
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Replying to @khalidbinyaqub @NegarestaniReza
it’s also an incredible generalization, Hallaj you could arguably call an ‘insurgent’ but there was emphatically no “camoflague” involved there. In later centuries the kind of sentiments you’ve quoted are tropes and clichés
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Replying to @khalidbinyaqub @NegarestaniReza
many persian sufis actually state their beliefs about god in their ‘prose’ writings, which while far more complex and variegated than this silly idea of “humanity storming the heavens,” generally follow some permutation of wahdat al-wujud
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Replying to @khalidbinyaqub
You are most probably an Islamist. Hallaj was extremely careful to not reveal his philosophical alliances until his return from the third hajj when he was under the influence of Babouyeh and Nobakhti took a more confrontational stance.
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Replying to @simadologist
haha, great these Islamists always reveal themselves so easily. ;)
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza
Especially when talk about "storming the heavens" comes up


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Replying to @simadologist
Love the fact that they always say, no storming the heaven means something else. oh yes
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Dino Buzzati's The Tartar Steppe 101: "There are no barbarians and even if they were real why should they storm our fortress?"
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza
Truly there are no barbarians and if there are then we are all barbarians! On another note...that Ladyman essay was a good read! Thanx!
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Replying to @simadologist
You should also read this classic. The man is arrogant as hell in person but he never disappoints: http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/8496/1/LLW-withoutFig-withAuthors.pdf …
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