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    1. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 11
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      The idea that there is such a thing as analogue computation is a classic oxymoron. The logic of the digital is computation and vice versa. (Now let's see how quickly this thread devolves.)

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    2. tristan‏ @jancorazza Apr 11
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      okay, so what is an analogue PID controller doing then, exactly, if not computing differentials and integrals?

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    3. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 11
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      That's the problem. You are already modeling the said controller on digital computation.

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    4. tristan‏ @jancorazza Apr 11
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      I don't see how that is, though? there's nothing "digital" about differentiation or integration, they're both just limits. just like e is a limit and not its digital representation, and can be computed digitally _or_ analoguely

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    5. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 11
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      You seem to confuse between two things, math modeling and computational modeling. Math modeling is not computation in any meaningful sense.

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    6. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 11
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      Without notions such effectivity (weak or strong) and computational complexity constrains, you are not talking about computation at all.

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    7. jared alford‏ @exhyletics Apr 12
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      Similar query. I have watched you refer to complexity science constraints (always both positive & negative, ofc) several times in seminars—& yet I have never seen you elucidate what such constraints might entail, in any context. Reading recs? Examples?

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    8. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 12
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      Sure. What counts as the canonical def. of a complex system these days is what you might call statistical complexity or structural stability. There are many formalizations for it but one of the most adequate ones is Ellison-machine reconstruction, so what is it?...

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    9. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 12
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      The ε-machine reconstruction is how a system predicts by predicting its future via reconstructing its past states. Think of it as a machine that emits X and Y or 0 and 1 in machine language. The best reconstruction is the one that follows the formal definition of Occam's razor.

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    10. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 12
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      So then you can think of a complex system as a system capable of retaining its past states or what is called generative entrenchment (tradition anyone?). Now the more (past) reconstructions you have the more you are constrained as a system? How?

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      Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 12
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      In two ways, the rate of variation begins to decrease as the entrenched constraints increase like in evolution. This is negative constraint on vacation. But then there is a positive constraint in the sense that some functions might evolve which are within the given system.

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        2. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 12
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          Variation not vacation, I should just turn off the autocorrect at this point.

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        3. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 12
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          This idea between negative and positive constraints shouldn't be mapped onto vertical and horizontal modularities. This used to be a classic example but not anymore: people used to cite examples including myself that entrenchment is more like building a wall.

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        2. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 12
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          The example of such positive i.e. enabling constraints is already here: language being the killer app vs. raw neural processing capacities. Concepts.

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        3. jared alford‏ @exhyletics Apr 12
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          This was quite helpful. I’ll be seeking more generative entrenchment in this direction.

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