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    1. alexis.toumi‏ @AlexisToumi Apr 12
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      Replying to @_julesh_ @jancorazza and

      I remember this blog post on "Why are eight bits enough for deep neural networks?" (https://petewarden.com/2015/05/23/why-are-eight-bits-enough-for-deep-neural-networks/ …), and more recent this "Ultra-low precision training" https://www.ibm.com/blogs/research/2019/05/ultra-low-precision-training/ … which seem to say that neural nets really are digital computation.

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    2. oliver beige‏ @oliverbeige Apr 12
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      Replying to @AlexisToumi @_julesh_ and

      Neurons aren't digital. Annealing isn't digital. Radar isn't digital. We need to be careful not to get the simulation confused with the original. That was the key insight of 1986.

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    3. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 12
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      Replying to @oliverbeige @AlexisToumi and

      You seem to use the word digital in a simplistic way like how artists use it. The digital is a logic, numeric-based system with terminating computational functions. All such machines if you call them computers should be isomorphic to the logic of a regular-rule-bound system.

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    4. oliver beige‏ @oliverbeige Apr 12
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      Replying to @NegarestaniReza @AlexisToumi and

      In case you haven't noticed, this is the boundary I have navigated for a good forty years, so nothing I do here is "simplistic". If you don't stop your attempts at splaining and actually try to offer a counter position, you go on the block.

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    5. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 12
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      Replying to @oliverbeige @AlexisToumi and

      No it was you who was splaining and here is an instance, 'I have worked on this front for 40 years.' Yes good I also wrote my dissertation on these issues 20+ years ago. . Either we begin to look at the fundamental problems calmly or it would be just talking past each other.

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    6. oliver beige‏ @oliverbeige Apr 12
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      Replying to @NegarestaniReza @AlexisToumi and

      You offering a definition of what you think computing is, and hold it up as the only valid one against a mountain of counterevidence. There is nothing to discuss, really. Have a good day.

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    7. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 12
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      Replying to @oliverbeige @AlexisToumi and

      Typical dogmatist who doesn't even have the courage to debate.

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    8. julesh‏ @_julesh_ Apr 12
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      Replying to @NegarestaniReza @oliverbeige and

      Debate? That's scholasticism, not mathematics

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    9. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 12
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      Replying to @_julesh_ @oliverbeige and

      Mathematics is neither physics nor computation. Plus, where did you think modern mathematics come from?

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    10. I̡̛ w̶̢̢ou͝l̀͏̴δ p̡͠re҉͞҉fe̷̴r̕ n͜o̴҉t ̕t̡͘o͠͡‏ @KirkoMal Apr 12
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      Replying to @NegarestaniReza @_julesh_ and

      why don't you anglophones just use "numerical" instead of "digital" or at least specify one with the other? digital is a very effective term, but it's highly technical and poorly scientific, once left the electronic network model...

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      Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 12
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      Replying to @KirkoMal @_julesh_ and

      Good point. Sorry 😬

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        2. I̡̛ w̶̢̢ou͝l̀͏̴δ p̡͠re҉͞҉fe̷̴r̕ n͜o̴҉t ̕t̡͘o͠͡‏ @KirkoMal Apr 12
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          Replying to @NegarestaniReza @_julesh_ and

          I did not mean to say you're using it wrong... imo the term is highly embedded with English language, and that's its strength, but I think that makes the word very difficult to use in systematic reflective discourses (i.e. philosophy).

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        3. I̡̛ w̶̢̢ou͝l̀͏̴δ p̡͠re҉͞҉fe̷̴r̕ n͜o̴҉t ̕t̡͘o͠͡‏ @KirkoMal Apr 12
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          Replying to @KirkoMal @NegarestaniReza and

          However, your question is valid and philosophically charged, but it seems, in the tweet's answers, the ambiguity of the term disturbed the discussion.

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