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Creator of a blunt object known as Intelligence and Spirit https://tinyurl.com/s7e226j  (Urbanomic/Sequence).

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    1. Dock Currie☭☭☭☭‏ @DockCurrie Apr 8
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      I thought it was a pompous dressing up of basically the role that Jordan Peterson would come to play, ie hysterical and knee-jerk 'you can't make me say your pronouns' reaction dressed up in pious pseudo-critical garb. Its basically just a defense of privilege.

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    2. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 8
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      No, I really don't think so. Mark's thesis was more sinister without losing the sight of a socialist revolution. What if the privileged mimic the under-privileged? Comparing him with Peterson or these run-of-the-mill critics of political correctness is a disservice to Mark.

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    3. Dock Currie☭☭☭☭‏ @DockCurrie Apr 8
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      Replying to @NegarestaniReza @anti_minotaur

      I disagree. How easily could a legitimate sex-pest appropriate the so-called 'critique of the vampire's castle'? Very. Very easily, because ultimately it is just complaining about any mechanism or process of accountability whatsoever.

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    4.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @anti_minotaur Apr 8
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      This is really only true if you believe that raw power, cruelty and disdain are the mechanisms of accountability. If so, so much the worse the accountability, and further, why be an egaliatarian at all?

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    5. Dock Currie☭☭☭☭‏ @DockCurrie Apr 8
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      Every shitty reactionary will claim that being held to account in any way is to be the 'victim' of so-called "raw power, cruelty and disdain," just as Jordan Peterson does.

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    6. big time woke guy‏ @MarxNotNarcs Apr 8
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      Fisher correctly identified that this "raw power, cruelty and disdain" nevertheless fails to hold anybody to account. It wields no material power, as "the Vampires’ Castle is best understood as a bourgeois-liberal perversion and appropriation of the energy" of social movements.

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    7. Dock Currie☭☭☭☭‏ @DockCurrie Apr 8
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      Replying to @MarxNotNarcs @anti_minotaur @NegarestaniReza

      I mean, you can play word games like 'a bourgeois-liberal perversion,' blah, blah, a rapist is going to play a lot of word games with their accuser like that, too. Its a highly aestheticized manual for pathologizing accusers, oftentimes actual victims.

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    8. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 8
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      Replying to @DockCurrie @MarxNotNarcs @anti_minotaur

      You need to elaborate on this comparison.

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    9. Dock Currie☭☭☭☭‏ @DockCurrie Apr 8
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      Replying to @NegarestaniReza @MarxNotNarcs @anti_minotaur

      You say Mark wrote from a different position than the Petersons, that I could see, but that text is nonetheless, in function, indistinguishable from the procedures of gaslighting, stymatization, and pathologization deployed by the Petersons.

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    10. big time woke guy‏ @MarxNotNarcs Apr 8
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      The problem here is that we are not talking about rape accusations. By your logic, any attack, made in bad faith or otherwise, must be addressed as though it is as legitimate and serious as an accusation of rape. That's insane, and it's the logic that's destroyed the left.

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      Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 8
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      Replying to @MarxNotNarcs @DockCurrie @anti_minotaur

      I'd say the moment you see everything as the logic of victimhood with no regard to context and material conditions that makes one a victim, you become part of the neoliberal capitalism who has far more effective strategies to assimilate such a logic without ever resolving it.

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        2.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @anti_minotaur Apr 8
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          This is the "struggle without reconciliation" that dooms Adorno, as Habermas and Gouldner exquisitely explained. If there was nothing in the world, nothing in our work, that made life bearable, made capitalism worth it, there would be no hope for its replacement. A tragic lesson.

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        3. big time woke guy‏ @MarxNotNarcs Apr 8
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          Replying to @anti_minotaur @NegarestaniReza @DockCurrie

          I'm dreadfully unfamiliar with the works of those three but the necessity of reconciliation makes intuitive sense to me, as I understand it. Anything good from Gouldner to read on this?

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        2. Dock Currie☭☭☭☭‏ @DockCurrie Apr 8
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          Replying to @NegarestaniReza @MarxNotNarcs @anti_minotaur

          Kind of bored with this because I can tell the people on this thread and I just aren't going to agree. But as a concrete example: repeated, concerted, malicious misgendering of a trans person, someone called out on this could simply blame the so-called 'vampire castle.'

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        3.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @anti_minotaur Apr 8
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          Replying to @DockCurrie @NegarestaniReza @MarxNotNarcs

          None of us believe that in the first place, we just disagree that Mark was, or could somehow be twisted, into endorsing that.

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