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Creator of a blunt object known as Intelligence and Spirit https://tinyurl.com/s7e226j  (Urbanomic/Sequence).

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    1. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 8
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      I loved that essay when Mark wrote it. He was already progressing toward such a vision in the early 2000s. What Mark didn't realize at first was how subtle the vampire castle can move around and that Nietzsche, French philosophy or British marxism were not adequate answers.

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    2. Dock Currie☭☭☭☭‏ @DockCurrie Apr 8
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      I thought it was a pompous dressing up of basically the role that Jordan Peterson would come to play, ie hysterical and knee-jerk 'you can't make me say your pronouns' reaction dressed up in pious pseudo-critical garb. Its basically just a defense of privilege.

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    3. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 8
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      No, I really don't think so. Mark's thesis was more sinister without losing the sight of a socialist revolution. What if the privileged mimic the under-privileged? Comparing him with Peterson or these run-of-the-mill critics of political correctness is a disservice to Mark.

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    4. Dock Currie☭☭☭☭‏ @DockCurrie Apr 8
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      I disagree. How easily could a legitimate sex-pest appropriate the so-called 'critique of the vampire's castle'? Very. Very easily, because ultimately it is just complaining about any mechanism or process of accountability whatsoever.

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    5.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @anti_minotaur Apr 8
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      This is really only true if you believe that raw power, cruelty and disdain are the mechanisms of accountability. If so, so much the worse the accountability, and further, why be an egaliatarian at all?

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    6. Dock Currie☭☭☭☭‏ @DockCurrie Apr 8
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      Every shitty reactionary will claim that being held to account in any way is to be the 'victim' of so-called "raw power, cruelty and disdain," just as Jordan Peterson does.

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    7. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 8
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      But this wasn't what Mark saying, he began to understand how the forces of neoliberal capitalism can emulate a facade of socialism and that the task is to dispel the fog.

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    8. Dock Currie☭☭☭☭‏ @DockCurrie Apr 8
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      Well, your mileage may vary, I just bristle at the hagiography. I think that was one of his weakest works. Again, a shitty person in a position of power is going to depict criticism of themselves as "neoliberal capitalism emulating a facade" etc.

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    9. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 8
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      But how was Mark in a position of power?

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    10. Dock Currie☭☭☭☭‏ @DockCurrie Apr 8
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      I'm not saying he was, I'm saying he wrote a boring manual for people in a position of power to delegitimize, stygmatize, pathologize and dismiss those who critique their position. At best it is easily recuperable *by* Jordan Petersons, even if not written from the same place.

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      Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Apr 8
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      No he really didn't. Mark was quite aware of the backlash via misunderstanding. But it was his duty to point out that we are indiscriminately fusing the symptomatic neoliberal morality with an actual Marxian ethics.

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        2.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @anti_minotaur Apr 8
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          Well said. Mark's thesis was not a compatriot of the right-wing assault on "cultural Marxism", but its negation. The point was precisely the opposite: that these forms of extravagant cruelty in the name of social justice serve, in the final analysis, what the claim to oppose.

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        3.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @anti_minotaur Apr 8
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          Let's make this concrete. I assume you are familiar with this quote: "If we broke up the big banks, would that end racism?". This is what Mark is talking about, or at least the seeds of it. And though, (at least to some), such sentiments are more sublimated today, they are there.

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