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Creator of a blunt object known as Intelligence and Spirit https://tinyurl.com/s7e226j  (Urbanomic/Sequence).

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    1. dark mutualist‏ @cyborg_nomade Feb 26
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      you're overestimating the complexity of most middle management. driving cars is way more complex.

      2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    2. Moe  ❤️ Maximizing  👼 Superintelligence‏ @baroquespiral Feb 26
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      Replying to @cyborg_nomade @anti_minotaur and

      "AI could be better at capitalism than humans" is imo a sort of tautology that doesn't really prove anything (specifically, whether CAPITALISM is identical with intelligence). the possibility of inventing capitalism entails the possibility of inventing something better at it

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    3. dark mutualist‏ @cyborg_nomade Feb 26
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      Replying to @baroquespiral @anti_minotaur and

      the affirmation underlying Land's thesis - which I think is accurate - is that AI and Capital are the same thing. "capitalism" is very complicated in this setting - but one could think of it as "partially autonomous capital".

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    4. ifrit‏ @metadiogenes Feb 26
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      Replying to @cyborg_nomade @baroquespiral and

      Land is correct, of course. AI, capital, intelligence, agency, etc., are all different instances of the same underlying thermodynamic structure. See, e.g.,https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.110.168702 …

      5 replies 2 retweets 36 likes
    5. Джошиванкаб0т‏ @Josh86480104 Feb 26
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      Replying to @metadiogenes @cyborg_nomade and

      The problem is that the notion of 'capital' here lies completely outside of both the economics and Marxist traditions; it's misleading esoterica that belies its actual status as either a stock of resources or an economic/social relationship

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    6. ifrit‏ @metadiogenes Feb 26
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      Replying to @Josh86480104 @cyborg_nomade and

      Then read "capital" as "means of production", or "technology", I guess. Don't see how this affects the essential point about energy flows in non-equilibrium systems. Creating notions outside of existing frameworks is probably a feature not a bug.

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    7. Джошиванкаб0т‏ @Josh86480104 Feb 26
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      Replying to @metadiogenes @cyborg_nomade and

      Sure; it's a sort of metaphysics of existence-as-decay ala Prigogine or Cioran, but it's baffling that capital gets invoked in these discussions about social thermodynamics and the entropic irreversibility of time

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    8. ifrit‏ @metadiogenes Feb 26
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      Replying to @Josh86480104 @cyborg_nomade and

      Capital is a key example of life-like things which operate against decay/entropy. It extracts resources from its environment, converts them into work and entropy, and invests the work in its future productive capacity. We can handwave all negentropy as "capital". Why not capital?

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    9. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Feb 26
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      Replying to @metadiogenes @Josh86480104 and

      Would you be able to describe to me what thermodynamics is? Feel free to consult with wikipedia.

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    10. ifrit‏ @metadiogenes Feb 26
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      Replying to @NegarestaniReza @Josh86480104 and

      Lol. What is the point of asking such a bad faith question? If you have something to say, say it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Feb 26
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      Replying to @metadiogenes @Josh86480104 and

      No it is a genuine question: how can one commensurate first and the second laws with the tropes you have mentioned? My apologies if I came as obnoxiously condescending.

      6:05 PM - 26 Feb 2020
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        2.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @anti_minotaur Feb 26
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          Replying to @NegarestaniReza @metadiogenes and

          The laws of thermodynamics: "And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed."

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        3. ifrit‏ @metadiogenes Feb 26
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          Replying to @anti_minotaur @NegarestaniReza and

          this but unironically. the entropic dynamics of non-equilibrium systems manifests the divine will of god. this is why @Outsideness talks about gnon aka "god or natures god"

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        2. ifrit‏ @metadiogenes Feb 26
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          Replying to @NegarestaniReza @Josh86480104 and

          ifrit Retweeted ifrit

          oh okay my bad, i misread you, cool. 😎👍 i'm gonna quote tweet you because i wrote a lot and want it on the TL lol. see here:https://twitter.com/metadiogenes/status/1232879904519262208 …

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          ifrit @metadiogenes
          The 1st & 2nd laws of thermodynamics only hold for closed systems. Every system we actually care about is open & exposed to a heat sink: the sun. We can also talk about energy sources more generally, e.g. a battery can induce a thermodynamic potential. https://twitter.com/NegarestaniReza/status/1232834115889704960 …
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        3. Unconscious Abyss ∞‏ @UnconsciousAby Feb 27
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          Replying to @metadiogenes @NegarestaniReza and

          Was there a reply?

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