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Creator of a blunt object known as Intelligence and Spirit https://tinyurl.com/s7e226j  (Urbanomic/Sequence).

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    1. dark mutualist‏ @cyborg_nomade Feb 26
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      and I think something like AlphaZero could be applied to, say, corporate processes and/or trading in order to automate a huge chunk of the economy.

      3 replies 1 retweet 10 likes
    2. dark mutualist‏ @cyborg_nomade Feb 26
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      that it hasn't been applied tells more about the kind of institutions and people involved in DeepMind than about the effort to automate.

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    3.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @anti_minotaur Feb 26
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      Why assume this besides the fact it advances the "underlying argument"? What reason do we have to believe the people and institutions are the limiting factor rather than the technology?

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    4. dark mutualist‏ @cyborg_nomade Feb 26
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      Replying to @anti_minotaur @baroquespiral and

      have you worked in a corporation? anything that can beat the world champion of Go can beat any middle manager at shuffling paper.

      4 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    5. dark mutualist‏ @cyborg_nomade Feb 26
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      Replying to @cyborg_nomade @anti_minotaur and

      most of the tasks an automation algorithm would have to perform in the world are actually pretty simple. once you stop wasting human resources on self-driving cars & toy models, all those tasks can be automated, since all they require are well-trained AlphaZero's (probably less)

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    6.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @anti_minotaur Feb 26
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      Replying to @cyborg_nomade @baroquespiral and

      I'm sorry but this is common-sensical pre-critical claptrap. I'll answer it in kind: "Anything that can't even drive a car can't do management".

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. dark mutualist‏ @cyborg_nomade Feb 26
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      Replying to @anti_minotaur @baroquespiral and

      you're overestimating the complexity of most middle management. driving cars is way more complex.

      2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    8. Moe  ❤️ Maximizing  👼 Superintelligence‏ @baroquespiral Feb 26
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      Replying to @cyborg_nomade @anti_minotaur and

      "AI could be better at capitalism than humans" is imo a sort of tautology that doesn't really prove anything (specifically, whether CAPITALISM is identical with intelligence). the possibility of inventing capitalism entails the possibility of inventing something better at it

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    9. dark mutualist‏ @cyborg_nomade Feb 26
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      Replying to @baroquespiral @anti_minotaur and

      the affirmation underlying Land's thesis - which I think is accurate - is that AI and Capital are the same thing. "capitalism" is very complicated in this setting - but one could think of it as "partially autonomous capital".

      2 replies 1 retweet 15 likes
    10. ifrit‏ @metadiogenes Feb 26
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      Replying to @cyborg_nomade @baroquespiral and

      Land is correct, of course. AI, capital, intelligence, agency, etc., are all different instances of the same underlying thermodynamic structure. See, e.g.,https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.110.168702 …

      5 replies 2 retweets 36 likes
      Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Feb 26
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      Replying to @metadiogenes @cyborg_nomade and

      It's really great to see Nick likes every bizarre post affirming him. Unconditional affirmation be my god!

      1:26 PM - 26 Feb 2020
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      • Junk Varun nick chen, wannabe cyberneticist 1st reformed mitskitarian church INANE DREAMZ Mikael Brunila 🐊 𝔢𝔣𝔢𝔫𝔦🤖𝔟𝔬𝔱🤖 Vasta ifrit
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        2.  🌇vole, mighty digger 🌆‏ @anti_minotaur Feb 26
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          Replying to @NegarestaniReza @metadiogenes and

          It's hard, these days, to resist the temptation of "thermodynamics proves me right!".

          3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Feb 26
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          Replying to @anti_minotaur @metadiogenes and

          Fragmentation is all I wished, I promise.

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