and I think something like AlphaZero could be applied to, say, corporate processes and/or trading in order to automate a huge chunk of the economy.
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Replying to @cyborg_nomade @baroquespiral and
that it hasn't been applied tells more about the kind of institutions and people involved in DeepMind than about the effort to automate.
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Replying to @cyborg_nomade @baroquespiral and
Why assume this besides the fact it advances the "underlying argument"? What reason do we have to believe the people and institutions are the limiting factor rather than the technology?
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Replying to @anti_minotaur @baroquespiral and
have you worked in a corporation? anything that can beat the world champion of Go can beat any middle manager at shuffling paper.
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Replying to @cyborg_nomade @anti_minotaur and
most of the tasks an automation algorithm would have to perform in the world are actually pretty simple. once you stop wasting human resources on self-driving cars & toy models, all those tasks can be automated, since all they require are well-trained AlphaZero's (probably less)
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Replying to @cyborg_nomade @baroquespiral and
I'm sorry but this is common-sensical pre-critical claptrap. I'll answer it in kind: "Anything that can't even drive a car can't do management".
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Replying to @anti_minotaur @baroquespiral and
you're overestimating the complexity of most middle management. driving cars is way more complex.
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Replying to @cyborg_nomade @anti_minotaur and
"AI could be better at capitalism than humans" is imo a sort of tautology that doesn't really prove anything (specifically, whether CAPITALISM is identical with intelligence). the possibility of inventing capitalism entails the possibility of inventing something better at it
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Replying to @baroquespiral @anti_minotaur and
the affirmation underlying Land's thesis - which I think is accurate - is that AI and Capital are the same thing. "capitalism" is very complicated in this setting - but one could think of it as "partially autonomous capital".
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Replying to @cyborg_nomade @baroquespiral and
Land is correct, of course. AI, capital, intelligence, agency, etc., are all different instances of the same underlying thermodynamic structure. See, e.g.,https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.110.168702 …
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It's really great to see Nick likes every bizarre post affirming him. Unconditional affirmation be my god!
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza @metadiogenes and
It's hard, these days, to resist the temptation of "thermodynamics proves me right!".
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Replying to @anti_minotaur @metadiogenes and
Fragmentation is all I wished, I promise.
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