This is the critical point.
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Replying to @Outsideness @cyborg_nomade and
Yes, it's just akin to a conversation between a rationalist and someone who believes in god in this or that guise.
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza @Outsideness and
Nature might as well be a God (Gnon). The more we try to understand it's rules, the higher the probability of reward.
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Replying to @higherOrderNet @NegarestaniReza and
Whether it's a mindless God or not is irrelevant to this statement.
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Replying to @higherOrderNet @NegarestaniReza and
God is omnipresent? Reality is omnipresent. God is omnipotent? Reality not only can, but does do everything that can be done. God is omniscient? Reality is already the thing which is to be known.
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Replying to @Baalren @higherOrderNet and
Except that the blind idea of reality is as much idiotic as the belief in a God.
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza @Baalren and
you really (haha) think there's no reality at all?
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Replying to @cyborg_nomade @Baalren and
Don't be naive. The concept of reality requires adequate qualifications. Reality is never given on a silver plate. Reality is found and constructed by the labor of objectivity.
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza @Baalren and
again, you seem to be subordinating reality to theory. is this a move to say that, with the right theory, anything is possible? I'm really trying to fathom what you think, because it doesn't seem to make any sense.
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Replying to @cyborg_nomade @NegarestaniReza and
It makes perfect sense if you think Plato and Hegel were basically on the right track. (Otherwise, not so much.)
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It has nothing to do with Plato or Hegel even though I admire them. Let us talk about a sci theory, such as Gibbs's work on thermodynamics. How was it constructed, what were its limitations not only in terms of the theory but also in terms of the picture of reality it offered?
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza @Outsideness and
I think the more interesting question is how well it works in real-world situations, such as, say, building a machine.
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Replying to @cyborg_nomade @Outsideness and
You can build a machine even if you don't have a scientific theory explaining the undergirding mechanisms. The movement you form of a scientific theory of mechanisms at work, you can make a better or a different machine.
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