also like, physical laws aren't real, they're useful generalizations over all the observations that have been made
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they have selective consequences for those that would ignore it. this is about as real as it gets.
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you can pretty much live your entire life believing or disbelieving in physical locality, its really of no consequence to most. whether all the empires are going to collapse is a different question, and far more pertinent. cladistics is many different things..
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but the article really started to fall apart when it tried to apply these principles to linguistics, and bootstrap that into outdated ethnoscience. the allegory extends only so far, at which point the overloaded physics-myth behind it loses its meaning.
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sure, there can be counter arguments to the part that deals with more mundane things. I'd like to read those arguments. my initial reaction was just asking if Reza thought his statement about ontology amounted to an argument against the physics in the article.
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okay, meta-physical bewilderment aside, the origin of peoples is -not- abstractly equivalent to biological speciation. there is no language without hybridity, which seems a lot more significant than how the tree model was once used. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybridity#In_linguistics …
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and yet, languages develop into recognizable independent units. so do peoples.
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that doesn't always happen, either. have you ever heard the question, "what's the difference between a dialect and a language"? there are many places where developing a unique idiolect is valued over linguistic homogeny. its only empires that want it so badly.
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sure. but we're not speaking German or Chinese.
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what point are you trying to make
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Who me? This thread is becoming like a Carthagean quagmire, every one hacks everyone else.
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no, I'm talking to class warmonger over here, about how speciation is not a useful way of talking about language welcome to the hellthreads Reza
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Jesus, posting in these threads is worse than wearing black and trying to cross street at the middle of night.
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