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Creator of a blunt object known as Intelligence and Spirit https://tinyurl.com/s7e226j  (Urbanomic/Sequence).

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    1. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Feb 14
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      Anyone thinking wholes and parts are ontic categories is either a fraudester or a stupid philosopher (i.e. doubly fraudster). There is no such ontic categories. You construct new wholes to reveal the underlying fragments, you glue the fragments to uncover new wholes ad infinitum.

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    2. Rob Myers‏ @robmyers Feb 14
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      And yet one must have some access to those parts to create one's wholes. Which is tricky if it would take more matter than the part of the universe one finds oneself standing in contains in order to access a different part. This is a materially epistemological problem.

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    3. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Feb 14
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      To be honest, this stuff you are saying are just continental baby foods. This is not how science works. What you say about the universe or matter is more like a whimsical metaphysical shopping list from the next door grocery store.

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    4. Rob Myers‏ @robmyers Feb 14
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      The transcendental shopping list that needs no evaluation against the shelves of the grocery store in the adjacent cosmic locale is not science either. Stop reinventing OOO, it's not a good look.

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    5. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Feb 14
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      You keep mentioning cosmic locales or universe. What are these really? How do you know they are there? What are their attributes that make them necessary? And more importantly, why do you think what I told you is a version of OOO?

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    6. Rob Myers‏ @robmyers Feb 14
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      Their necessity and nature within the frame of this discussion is established by this being about the possibility of access in any meaningful sense, which is why this is an epistemological question and seeking to make it one of (the rhetoric of…) ontology is familiarly misguided

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      Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Feb 15
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      Yes, isn't this what I was talking about? However, you need to be careful here. We can still talk about them ontologically within the established epistemic frames, but we can't do is to treat them ontically . I mentioned ontic in my post, not ontological.

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        2. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Feb 15
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          Essentially what we have to avoid is the ontic hypothesization of parts and wholes.

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        3. Reza Negarestani‏ @NegarestaniReza Feb 15
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          Just like the ontic reification of objects.

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