Mongols got this funny idea that they can threaten Egyptians into submission just the way they did that to the Abasids. Egyptians gave them the performance of their life at Ain al-Jalut. The Golden Horde never recovered from that.
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza
Some would say that genetically speaking, the golden horde did what they were supposed to do.
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Replying to @lesoiseauxdumal
Genghis's DNA is in our blood. But screw them, a fundamentally tribal society slows down the clock of civilization. We could be on stars right now if they haven't had ransacked some of the most scientifically advanced civs of the time.
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza
That narrative i'm always suspicious about tbh
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Replying to @lesoiseauxdumal
Why? Baghdad was the center of science at that time. It had schools which accommodated both eastern and western students and scholars. It was by all means the centre of scientific education. People were flocking to these schools. It's not just Baghdad, also Balkh, Herat, Kiev, ..
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza
It's the second part of the narrative that i'm having a hard time believing. The effect that the invasion had on these societies. A discussion about "diversity" can be focused on the first century after the invasion. What did it do to the cultural topography of the medieval world
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Replying to @lesoiseauxdumal
Two invasions handicapped the cultural topography that was already stabilized and flourishing leading to cultural scarcity rather than diversity across the globe: The initial expansion of the mongol empire and then Ottoman's conquest of the Holy Roman Empire.
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza @lesoiseauxdumal
Science went to the west, shit poetry stayed in the East.
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza @lesoiseauxdumal
What needs to be taken into account is the initial aggressive expansionism of the Mongols which had no respect for the archival history or accumulated knowledge much like Assyrians. The later mongol dynasties were different.
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Replying to @NegarestaniReza
true. but also pax mongolica was one of the longest periods of stability in this ever-war-stricken region.
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Not at the beginning, it's only when they settled down just like a plague that levels out. The initial phase of the invasion was quite brutal and chaotic, but overtime they got into infightings so they had to become sedentary and maintain stability.
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