Sorry haters you get into cybernetic when you don't know about complexity theory or computer science. Get a complex-comp partner please.
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I see 2nd order cybernetics as a proto-interactionist paradigm of looking at systems and technical objects. Yet cybernetics on its own can't address detailed issues about interactions and formal learning etc. Things like issues around true concurrency are bugbears of cybernetics.
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I know that issues around asynchronous processing in the concurrency sense are being studied by cyberneticians, but they are still far more rudimentary than how theoretical computer science approaches the issues of interaction.
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