Not discredited whatsoever
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Harmon cites Reich saying "it's likely average between-population genetic differences in cognition exist" as acceptable/mainstream. But Watson is discredited/dangerous ... so the conclusion is that some groups are less intelligent but Watson is wrong about which ones?
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Reich says it is not in impossible that groups differ in intelligence without saying which groups would be more intelligent if it were the case. Watson says blacks are less intelligent and it's genetic. See the difference?
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So it could be that Reich thinks the more sub-Saharan African DNA a person has, the lower their IQ, on average, but that the proportion of sub-Saharan African DNA one has doesn't fit socially-construcated categories like "black". This isn't a big difference.
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No. He made no such statements. You're making assumptions that aren't warranted. Reich is, in effect, positing it could turn out some isolated, non-white populations might have a higher intelligence than those of Euro descent. We truly can't do the experiments to know, however.
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This. I don't even know what made the guy above get this twisted interpretation. Probably confirmation bias.
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You and her both misunderstood my point. I am claiming that his position is consistent with believing specific African populations have lower IQs on average than specific European populations as a result of genetic differences, just that this isn't a "black" and "white" division.
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This is a logical consequence of your statement: "Reich says it is not in impossible that groups differ in intelligence without saying which groups would be more intelligent if it were the case." So he *could* think specific African populations have lower IQs than Europeans. 1/2
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*If* one were to think this, it wouldn't be much of a difference. In other words, "Part of the difference between Africans and Europeans is genetic" is not importantly different to people like Watson than "Part of the difference between black and white people is genetic." 2/2
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I once sat through a talk where he claimed that women were not as smart as men, using Rosalind Franklin as an example; the woman who produced the data he published and gave him the Nobel Prize! No prize nor advanced age can excuse comments like that.
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It was a great, and sad, article. Scientific brilliance does not necessarily confer wisdom. Another issue: Have you re-read "The Double Helix" recently? I read it in college in the1970s and was most struck by one of the female students noting its sexism.
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As an evolutionary biologist and injury epidemiologist, I am curious what relevance this chart has to the discussion at hand. Please elaborate.
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Ugh. I hate that the NY Times gave this man more coverage. Look at the ignoramuses it brings out, just in response to your post. Watson isn't an evolutionary biologist. Heredity is covered in the first week. Shame he never bothered to formally study the field in all his decades.
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Airing these views are important to highlight that prominent scientists have unfounded views. We STEMmers heed statistics and data, but not talking heads, right? Why not work in unison to disestablish their rhetoric?
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A field of psychology studies how 'sticky' misinformation is. Sometimes, attempts to correct or retract misinformation have the opposite effect - people believe the misinformation more! The NYTimes is a broad and sticky platform, warranting criticism for covering Watson.
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so lets stop giving him a global platform to spew this trash
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Where is the lie though?
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