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Editor-in-Chief, @FiveThirtyEight. Author, The Signal and the Noise (http://amzn.to/QdyFYV ). Sports/politics/food geek.

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    1. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 May 8

      Nate Silver Retweeted Nate Cohn

      1. At the risk of starting a Nate vs Nate feud!: This is a good, interesting point but isn't large enough to mitigate the Comey effect.https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/861596068240293888 …

      Nate Silver added,

      Nate CohnVerified account @Nate_Cohn
      Replying to @Nate_Cohn
      I am pretty sure that the Comey effect was exaggerated, maybe greatly, by pre-Comey polls released after the letter https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/08/upshot/a-2016-review-theres-reason-to-be-skeptical-of-a-comey-effect.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0 … pic.twitter.com/mR8PUUdZlC
      52 replies 265 retweets 690 likes
    2. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 May 8
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      2. Nate C. is right to point out that there's a lag between when polls are conducted and when they become publicly available.

      4 replies 31 retweets 139 likes
    3. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 May 8
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      3. FiveThirtyEight's model at 12:01 am on Oct. 28 (Comey letter day), based on *available* polls, had Clinton up 5.9 points.

      5 replies 38 retweets 121 likes
    4. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 May 8
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      4. What if we run the model with all polls that had been *conducted* before Comey even if they hadn't been released? Clinton up 5.2 instead.

      9 replies 42 retweets 125 likes
    5. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 May 8
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      5. In other words, accounting for poll timing reduces the Comey effect by 0.7 points. But that would leave you with a 2 or 2.5-point effect…

      8 replies 43 retweets 142 likes
    6. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 May 8
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      6. …and Clinton lost the tipping-point state, Wisconsin, by only 0.8 points. People seem to forget how narrow Trump's victory was.

      30 replies 94 retweets 312 likes
    7. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 May 8
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      7. I argued here that I'm a "small Comey" guy. I think the effect was more like 1-2 points than 3-4 points…http://53eig.ht/2pFFLKg 

      14 replies 61 retweets 175 likes
    8. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 May 8
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      8. …I think it requires a pretty creative interpretation of the data to argue that Comey wasn't enough to swing WI, MI & PA, though.

      27 replies 106 retweets 349 likes
    9. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 May 8
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      9. Also, one's prior here shouldn't be zero effect. Earlier Email/FBI stories had a clear effect on Clinton's polls.http://53eig.ht/2mOj8RU 

      23 replies 81 retweets 291 likes
      Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 May 8

      10. Here's the above data in graphical form. Re-running the 538 model based on when polls were CONDUCTED as opposed to when AVAILABLE.pic.twitter.com/OUPOL2Vehl

      10:16 AM - 8 May 2017
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        2. Dean McGowan‏ @deanmcgowan May 8
          Replying to @NateSilver538

          She was already trending downwards

          2 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
        3. call me root, bitch‏ @4alarmsafeplace May 8
          Replying to @deanmcgowan @NateSilver538

          pic.twitter.com/vOifX9z8cs

          1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
        4. Steven Sullivan‏ @compliancedivis May 8
          Replying to @4alarmsafeplace @deanmcgowan @NateSilver538

          With all due respect, not sure citing even detailed demo stats for *10/27 forward* addresses observation that slide began *10/24*.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
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      1. Matt‏ @Mattswfc1 May 8
        Replying to @NateSilver538

        During a period of early voting in all 3 states that swung to Trump.

        0 replies 2 retweets 3 likes
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        2. Nate Cohn‏Verified account @Nate_Cohn May 8
          Replying to @RHenryWeaver

          even the nowcast is giving weight to polls conducted well before the date

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        2. Agrivisor LLC‏ @Agrivisor May 8
          Replying to @NateSilver538

          That assumes your polling was correct.......

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. jason‏ @jsonc_ May 8
          Replying to @Agrivisor @NateSilver538

          it's not his polling, far as I know. pretty sure 538 uses aggregates.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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        2. Jeremy Bowman‏ @TMFBowman May 8
          Replying to @NateSilver538

          Seems this falls into the "blame the ref" fallacy. Plenty of things over the course of the campaign could have cost her two points

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        2. S. Smith‏ @optimistelf May 8
          Replying to @NateSilver538

          But since this was the "lead" I keep wondering if the peak was unnaturally high because shock of the grabbing videos was still in play?

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        3. S. Smith‏ @optimistelf May 8
          Replying to @optimistelf @NateSilver538

          I'm sorry man, I should just write you an email about this and stop tweeting about it

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      2. Jonathan Feinberg‏ @pheinberg May 8
        Replying to @NateSilver538

        p-hacking.

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      3. AcilletaM‏ @acilletam May 8
        Replying to @NateSilver538

        Seems like blaming the kicker for losing the game by missing a FG. While team missed opportunities to win outright earlier.

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        2. Jim Preston‏ @jimpreston May 8
          Replying to @NateSilver538

          So many here don't understand this graph. Her minor decline continued instead of bouncing back like before. That probably = Comey.

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        2. Lee Johnson‏ @revleejohnson May 8
          Replying to @NateSilver538

          Doesn't this show a downward trajectory for Hilary prior to Comey? The slope does not appear to increase much? Isn't that what is important?

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