Morning debate: If you know someone will believe the opposite of what you say, so you say p in order to get them to believe not-p, when you believe not-p-- is that a lie?
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Wow, cool, I had no idea this was controversial, thought it’s obvious that you only needed to believe the relevant proposition.
If I believe P but want someone who persistently disbelieves me to believe not-P, so tell him P, is that a lie? Feels like a lie to me.
