It's keeping my attention plenty well these days. It does benefit a *lot* interest-wise when you're gambling at it (and I have a lot of Trumbull nostalgia here). But the same could be said for poker...
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Did people play Gin at Trumbull? I never did, and, unlike Yahtzee I have no memory of it there. You *can* play for just fun—my wife and I play once a while—but it’s much more like poker than Bridge in the need for stakes.. Where are you playing? What are you reading?
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I did a few times (huge hourly!) while waiting for more poker players to come. No idea whether others did the same. I’m playing just against the computer or on a Zynga app; I don’t see anything better. Not reading anything (suggestions?).
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No idea on reading—I was hoping you’d tell me! I’ve only ever played at the kitchen table, and never for more than nickels. I’ve never looked into any systematic study materials. But yes, incredibly skillful, but also hard to discern the skill edge.
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Matt Glassman Retweeted Matt Glassman
But, still, dad’s maxim looms large. Gin is only good as a hustle or if you only have one person who wants to play cards. https://twitter.com/mattglassman312/status/1212042131088519168?s=21 …https://twitter.com/MattGlassman312/status/1212042131088519168 …
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Matt Glassman @MattGlassman312Replying to @MattGlassman312 @NateMeyvis and 5 othersMy dad’squote: “There are only 3 card games: Poker, Gin, and Bridge. Everything else is a kid version of those. But Poker's actually a gambling game w/ cards, and Gin’s boring except as a hustle. So if you want to be good at *cards*, start with Bridge. 3/1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
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By the way, that quote is wrong. I consider Authors the 4th real card game. Gin *seems* like it should be awesome. Hand visualization inferences like Bridge, game theory like poker. But I’ve never felt the eureka rushes. Maybe I haven’t gotten deep enough to see the beauty.
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I think it's more likely that there's plenty of substance in gin, but that all of it is available orders of magnitude more richly in either bridge or poker. That is: you're not missing anything, it's just that the game has no elements that can thrill a bridge-and-poker player.
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But! I think gin with a doubling cube could be pretty slick.
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There is more to gin than meets the eye. Some of the best gin players have excelled at other games as well. Famously Stu Ungar, and Oswald Jacoby. Ungar was so much better than anyone else that there must be more skill than luck.
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I don’t see anything on line about gin being ‘solved’, but I’d expect a decent AI could be close to perfect very quickly.
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This is what surprises me. Seems like the sort of thing that would have made a good Masters thesis or something. Surely someone has done it!
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