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    1. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 7 Jan 2020

      Also make sure to either layer on a new policy or get new policy for X+Y then cancel existing one when your circumstances change as a result of (most prominently for geeks of my acquaintance) marriage, childbirth, or major changes in obligations.

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    2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 7 Jan 2020

      "Major changes in obligations?" Examples might include "I see line of sight to being responsible for my parents' upkeep in their retirement years" or "I have been awarded options which would have a material exercise cost."

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    3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 7 Jan 2020

      n.b. You can totally say, in a conversation with an underwriter: You: I want $X million in coverage. Underwriter: Per guidelines, based on your income, we think $Y should be sufficient. You: I work in tech and feel I have a likelihood of eventually having options exercise cost.

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    4. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 7 Jan 2020

      (That and "I run a closely held business" are close to magic words for getting coverage approved assuming your core risk(s) are underwritable.)

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    5. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 7 Jan 2020

      "Why do underwriters care how much coverage I have relative to my income?" They're worried about adverse selection. Purpose of term life is protecting future earnings; saying "I want way more than future earnings" suggests either a) you know more than them re: your health or b)

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    6. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 7 Jan 2020

      Well, b is that you or potentially someone else has plans that your insurer should not encourage. If you have specific cash needs which aren't naturally reflected in your future earnings, though, underwriters are very willing to accommodate those, particularly if documented.

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    7. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 7 Jan 2020

      n.b. Feel free to Dangerous Professional your way through "documented": "Here's proof of employment by a tech company." "And can I see the options paperwork." "That's private."

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    8. Nate Meyvis‏ @NateMeyvis 7 Jan 2020
      Replying to @patio11

      Characteristically good thread. Today I was thinking about how to hedge against my house going down in value. I didn't come up with a good answer. Advice?

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    9. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 7 Jan 2020
      Replying to @NateMeyvis

      Seems like poor optimization for most geeks relative to working on career. There are a lot of startups who want to enable this transaction in future though.

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    10. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 7 Jan 2020
      Replying to @patio11 @NateMeyvis

      (General flavor of that is “Let you sell equity in home” or “Let you sell messanine debt.”)

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      Nate Meyvis‏ @NateMeyvis 7 Jan 2020
      Replying to @patio11

      Cool. I was thinking more "is there something that tracks Boston-area real estate that I can buy puts on?" and didn't find anything suitable. Thanks for the response. FWIW I do semi-regularly get mail from companies that want me to sell them X% of my house in some arrangement.

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        1. Russ Wood‏ @PieFarmer 8 Jan 2020
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          I think futures and options on the Case/Shiller S&P housing indexes still trade. There was a Boston index. I'd be very careful, but I think what you seek is possible. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/mortgages-real-estate/10/understanding-case-shiller-index.asp …

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