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    1. Nate Meyvis‏ @NateMeyvis 25 Aug 2019
      Replying to @NateMeyvis @MattGlassman312

      You will not be surprised to learn that all of these, and many more, are out-of-the-box, one- or two-keystroke commands in Vim (and other such text editors). (OK, (iii) is two keystrokes plus the text you're searching for.) [6/N]

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    2. Nate Meyvis‏ @NateMeyvis 25 Aug 2019
      Replying to @NateMeyvis @MattGlassman312

      You already knew that "power user" text editors exist. But perhaps it helps to think of them as tools for taking all the ways that Word gently breaks you out of the metaphysics of pen and paper (e.g., what's close to what?), and going to eleven. [7/N]

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    3. Nate Meyvis‏ @NateMeyvis 25 Aug 2019
      Replying to @NateMeyvis @MattGlassman312

      Now imagine similar augmentations for copy/pasting, deleting, and everything else you can do in Word but can't with pen and paper (including at the meta-level: there's a one-keystroke "repeat the last command I gave, whatever that is"). That's what modern editors give you. [8/N]

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    4. Nate Meyvis‏ @NateMeyvis 25 Aug 2019
      Replying to @NateMeyvis @MattGlassman312

      What I find interesting and revealing is that getting all these superpowers is that I find them so much more valuable when I'm writing computer code than when I'm writing English (though it's useful in the latter case too). I have only partial explanations here. [9/9]

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    5. Robert Beard‏ @rbeard0330 25 Aug 2019
      Replying to @NateMeyvis @MattGlassman312

      I think the distinction is that the pen and paper metaphor is not just historical deadweight, it does work as a metaphor, both for setting shared guidelines with the audience and for organizing one’s own thoughts.

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    6. Robert Beard‏ @rbeard0330 25 Aug 2019
      Replying to @rbeard0330 @NateMeyvis @MattGlassman312

      It’s very common advice in the legal world that advice above a certain level of gravity or complexity should not be given or composed in Outlook, but should be written in word and either copied to an email or sent as an attachment.

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    7. Robert Beard‏ @rbeard0330 25 Aug 2019
      Replying to @rbeard0330 @NateMeyvis @MattGlassman312

      This is both due to expectations (client will just skim an email for the main point and ignore the qualifiers) and quality (you as the author will get too into the metaphor of a conversation to be appropriately rigorous in the analysis).

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    8. Robert Beard‏ @rbeard0330 25 Aug 2019
      Replying to @rbeard0330 @NateMeyvis @MattGlassman312

      More obviously, text composed in Word vs PPT vs Excel is radically different, which is largely due to the capacities and limits of the platforms and the common uses, but also due to the way people think when using them.

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    9. Robert Beard‏ @rbeard0330 25 Aug 2019
      Replying to @rbeard0330 @NateMeyvis @MattGlassman312

      I don’t have direct experience here, but it makes sense that maximizing keystroke-level productivity is key when you’re coding in the realm of abstract logical thought, but tapping into metaphors can be more valuable than saving keystrokes when good metaphors are available.

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    10. Robert Beard‏ @rbeard0330 25 Aug 2019
      Replying to @rbeard0330 @NateMeyvis @MattGlassman312

      Also common and related legal advice: documents that need to be seriously analyzed should be printed and annotated by hand, even though everyone understands how useful the superpowers you lose are.

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      Nate Meyvis‏ @NateMeyvis 25 Aug 2019
      Replying to @rbeard0330 @MattGlassman312

      Useful thread. Thanks. I should have been clearer that some of the difference isn't mysterious at all. Operations like "delete everything up to the next semicolon" are very common in code and much less common in writing. [1/N]

      5:49 PM - 25 Aug 2019
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        2. Nate Meyvis‏ @NateMeyvis 25 Aug 2019
          Replying to @NateMeyvis @rbeard0330 @MattGlassman312

          Slightly more generally, the fact that the line is so often a logical unit in code makes operations on lines really valuable in editing code. And, again, "go to the last place where the current token appears" is very common in code, less so in English. [2/N]

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        3. Nate Meyvis‏ @NateMeyvis 25 Aug 2019
          Replying to @NateMeyvis @rbeard0330 @MattGlassman312

          And, again, I'm interested that the best setups (for me, and I guess also for @jasoncummings86) are these stitched-together hybrids. Vim and Emacs have a large set of out-of-the-box commands, but in OS-like contexts where all sorts of customization etc. is possible. [3/N]

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