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I wish I too had a daddy funded career. African peasant girl stuggling with her love of Estee Lauder.

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    1. George Gathìgì‏ @SpryVoice Nov 9
      Replying to @SpryVoice @NaitwaGacheri @ZakxMutugi

      What I know about my generations (90s) and up to the millennium in my similar environment, we went and negotiated it with our fathers (or uncles). If you grew up in Dagoretti area, you said "I want to go to Rufus:" If you grew in Ngong, "I want to go to Mwangi."

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    2. George Gathìgì‏ @SpryVoice Nov 9
      Replying to @SpryVoice @NaitwaGacheri @ZakxMutugi

      There are other realities that affected this-- finishing class 8 for example was a good signal irrespective of age. My point, women role in male circumcision has historically been limited. Secondly, male relatives are more likely to fill in the gap.

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    3. George Gathìgì‏ @SpryVoice Nov 9
      Replying to @SpryVoice @NaitwaGacheri @ZakxMutugi

      I don't get the point of 'mother doing it.' It sounds like special circumstances (I speak as an uncle to several single-mothered young men).

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    4. George Gathìgì‏ @SpryVoice Nov 9
      Replying to @SpryVoice @NaitwaGacheri @ZakxMutugi

      Money? "... The strict rite requires that you seclude him and hire folks o take care of him. Usually about 2-3 other young men who are paid..." This is very strange. Read about the Gikuyu concept of Mutiri. Where do you pay mutiri? Who pays them and why?

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    5. Gustavo Fring‏ @RookieKE Nov 9
      Replying to @SpryVoice @NaitwaGacheri @ZakxMutugi

      Surely, in this day and age, who performs free labour? Even greetings come at a price.

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    6. Uncle Zack‏ @ZakxMutugi Nov 9
      Replying to @RookieKE @SpryVoice @NaitwaGacheri

      Most "Mutiri's" are trusted young male relative, cousins, who will see as a privilege to be a guide to a family member.... When growing up, I did the same to most of my younger kin...

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    7. Gustavo Fring‏ @RookieKE Nov 9
      Replying to @ZakxMutugi @SpryVoice @NaitwaGacheri

      It's good you did this, but I'm sure you know enough to admit that the economic landscape has changed significantly since then. Even grave diggers ask for chai

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    8. Afro Unicorn‏ @NaitwaGacheri Nov 9
      Replying to @RookieKE @ZakxMutugi @SpryVoice

      But even before the economic landscape changed this wasn't a free rite. Your father paid goats etc for the son to be allowed passage. Each rite of passage (and there were many) incurred a cost. Precolonial African communities were not communist utopias!

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    9. George Gathìgì‏ @SpryVoice Nov 9
      Replying to @NaitwaGacheri @RookieKE @ZakxMutugi

      Can we break down the specific 'costs'? In specific epochs? Where were they paid?

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    10. Afro Unicorn‏ @NaitwaGacheri Nov 9
      Replying to @SpryVoice @RookieKE @ZakxMutugi

      With all due respect this information is on google scholar but I know the payments to allow passage were made to the council of elders. People centre circumcision as the rite of passage because it is the only one that has survived. see next tweet.

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      Afro Unicorn‏ @NaitwaGacheri Nov 9
      Replying to @NaitwaGacheri @SpryVoice and

      There was a rite to pass into true childhood at age 5. A rite to pass into young warrior (circumcision), a rite to become a young man who was allowed to marry and father children (bloody expensive), a rite to "age" a man whose kids were of "circumcisable"...

      2:58 AM - 9 Nov 2018
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        1. Afro Unicorn‏ @NaitwaGacheri Nov 9
          Replying to @NaitwaGacheri @SpryVoice and

          A rite for a man whose children were now men with their own families...at this crap cost material things. NO to mention that there were also rites for girls and women. Just staying alive and functioning appropriately in society in the precolonial context was bloody expensive.

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