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    New York Magazine‏Verified account @NYMag Sep 22

    What might a canon of the 21st century look like right now? We asked dozens of critics and authors to find out https://nym.ag/2I5MSoM  #VultureBooks

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      2. Snakey-Headed Moe Murph‏ @MamurphyMaureen Sep 22
        Replying to @NYMag

        Jonathan Franzen and the Waitress With Varicose Veins (Attchd.)pic.twitter.com/9dpOz7FfC9

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      3. Snakey-Headed Moe Murph‏ @MamurphyMaureen Sep 22
        Replying to @MamurphyMaureen @NYMag

        My very subjective take is that Edward P. Jones has already transcended his age as an "all time great." The rest, wonderful, but we shall see. I do think, though (for reasons atached above) that Franzen is a product of his time and will not exceed it.

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      4. Amin‏ @modernmystics Sep 29
        Replying to @MamurphyMaureen @NYMag

        Eh? Not many have heard of him. How come he is all-time great? Franzen is a far bigger name and a better writer.

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      5. Snakey-Headed Moe Murph‏ @MamurphyMaureen Sep 30
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        Franzen is currently more well known but I think Jones is a great writer, Franzen a good one, but limited.

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      6. Amin‏ @modernmystics Sep 30
        Replying to @MamurphyMaureen @NYMag

        Limited by what? Jones is hardly in Franzen's class. He is a moderately talented writer at best - limited by writing about race.

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      7. Snakey-Headed Moe Murph‏ @MamurphyMaureen Sep 30
        Replying to @modernmystics @NYMag

        In absolute disagreement, but will close with two points. Your assumption that Jones "writes about race" in writing about his own milieu is as off the mark as dismissing Joyce since his writing focuses on the Caucasian Irish of Dublin. 1/2

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      8. Amin‏ @modernmystics Sep 30
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        But Jones does write about race. It is unfortunate how many non-White writers often end up pigeonholing themselves. Many P.O.C writers have written against this. Yes, but Joyce's theme wasn't race.

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      9. Snakey-Headed Moe Murph‏ @MamurphyMaureen Sep 30
        Replying to @modernmystics @NYMag

        You reveal yourself here more than anything you might say about Jones. In the U.S. you would likely be protesting "identity politics" and stating that "you don't see race."

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      1. #VoteBlue for survival of #Democracy‏ @SojournerNow Sep 22
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        not one crime fiction ... some of the best literature, especially books by Philip Kerr (recently lost to us) Berlin Trilogy for sure.

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