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International Relations prof at U. Illinois. Senior Editor @ArcDigi. Author “Drones and Terrorism.” Politics, national security, and occasional nerdery.

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    1. Daniel Dale‏Verified account @ddale8 Mar 28
      Replying to @mattyglesias

      I think there's some overzealousness about choosing what to "fact check," but that doesn't impeach the whole thing.

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    2. Daniel Dale‏Verified account @ddale8 Mar 28
      Replying to @ddale8 @mattyglesias

      I think it's kind of like seeing Vox "explain" the occasional trivial or not-in-need-of-explaining thing and saying the whole explainer genre is silly or bad.

      2 replies 1 retweet 20 likes
    3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Mar 28
      Replying to @ddale8 @mattyglesias

      Sort of. But there's a difference between explaining something trivial and fact-checking something that isn't true/false. Fact-checkers need credibility, and when they fact-check things that are matters of rhetoric, opinion, interpretation, etc. they undermine that credibility.

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    4. Daniel Dale‏Verified account @ddale8 Mar 28
      Replying to @NGrossman81 @mattyglesias

      For sure, I agree. But I don't think that the fact that some percentage of them are reaches means the whole enterprise is doomed

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      Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Mar 28
      Replying to @ddale8 @mattyglesias

      "Doomed" is overstating. But to work, the enterprise needs widespread buy-in. The biggest obstacle to that is accusations that they're not just checking facts, they're advancing liberal/progressive political opinions. Weighing in on non-factual disputes plays into that criticism.

      11:50 AM - 28 Mar 2018 from Urbana, IL
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        1. Daniel Dale‏Verified account @ddale8 Mar 28
          Replying to @NGrossman81 @mattyglesias

          Absolutely! Agree that that’s an obstacle and should be thought about

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        1. Djobo Kuwali‏ @DjoboKuwali Mar 28
          Replying to @NGrossman81 @ddale8 @mattyglesias

          So wait you guys just make meta statements about journalism and that legitimizes your bs for your readers? Obviously when none of your shit is based in reality “fact checking” can only be about political opinions.

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