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International Relations prof at U. Illinois. Senior Editor @ArcDigi. Author “Drones and Terrorism.” Politics, national security, and occasional nerdery.

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    Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Feb 12

    If US counterintelligence agents have evidence indicating an American citizen is acting as the agent of a foreign adversary, they should... do nothing. Don't look into it. Let it go. -Actual position* of multiple Congressman, including the House Intel Chair *applied selectively

    5:20 AM - 12 Feb 2018 from Illinois, USA
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      2. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Feb 12

        Nicholas Grossman Retweeted Fox News

        To those claiming I'm mischaracterizing Nunes' position, here's what he said on Fox yesterday:https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/962704866450829313 …

        Nicholas Grossman added,

        Fox NewsVerified account @FoxNews
        .@DevinNunes: "I don't agree with Carter Page on very much, but the guy shouldn't have his emails or phone calls listened to or eavesdropped into." #SundayFutures @MariaBartiromo pic.twitter.com/QREZYnlawq
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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Feb 12

        Based on public knowledge, Carter Page definitely should have had his emails or phone calls eavesdropped on. FBI counter intel believed it had enough evidence for probable cause. So did the FBI Director. So did the Deputy Attorney General. So did a FISA judge. That's not common.

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      4. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Feb 12

        But maybe you distrust FBI, Justice Department, and the John Roberts-appointed FISA judge. There's still: -Counter intel first suspected Page back in 2013 -Reports Russia tried to recruit Page years ago and found him susceptible -Page publicly bragging about advising the Kremlin

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      5. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Feb 12

        I'm not saying Page should be jailed. That requires a fair trial--I've never chanted "lock [him/her] up" about anyone--and I don't know if there's enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt he committed a crime. I'm not even saying he should be indicted. Just investigated

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      6. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Feb 12

        It was reasonable to suspect Page might be acting as a foreign agent. It was therefore reasonable to investigate him. Nunes et. al. are saying US counter intel shouldn't have looked into Page at all. It's a ridiculous thing to argue. But here we are. (END)

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      2. JuHun's Husband, Devo‏ @HickeyDevon Feb 12
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Your point is good. But I feel we keep having this same discussion about the issue of when you apply the partisan filter to your logic and how it all then "makes sense". The belief in the institutions & the integrity to act seem to be in dramatically shortening supply.

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Feb 12
        Replying to @HickeyDevon

        I'm partly making an argument, but also expressing incredulousness. Even after living through 2017, I'm having trouble accepting that it's an actual public argument. Because it's not just believing in institutions, but also public knowledge and Page's own words.

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      2. The Panic‏ @Gunntwitt Feb 12
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        I think that's grossly misrepresenting the "actual position" of multiple congressmen

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Feb 12
        Replying to @Gunntwitt

        How so?

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      4. John Tossona Jr‏ @MonsterBooII Feb 12
        Replying to @NGrossman81 @Gunntwitt

        There is no “How so”. You’ve covered the reasoning. Nothing more is needed.

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      5. The Panic‏ @Gunntwitt Feb 12
        Replying to @MonsterBooII @NGrossman81

        Well except for that shitty premise... but yeh, after that, we're reading you 5 x 5

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      6. John Tossona Jr‏ @MonsterBooII Feb 12
        Replying to @Gunntwitt @NGrossman81

        So you are say with my military career, that I should have been doing my job while speaking to foreign nationals about my duty? Don’t investigate me, I’m only discussing the secrets of my job. DA on 5 X 5. Get real.

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      7. The Panic‏ @Gunntwitt Feb 12
        Replying to @MonsterBooII @NGrossman81

        JT, I think you might be a step or two off the pace, on this deal. It’s cool. We’re all at different places on this one, but know this: Page was/is “UCE-1.” There’s really no disputing that fact. now.https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-espionage/fbi-penetrated-new-york-based-russian-spy-ring-using-hidden-recorders-idUSKCN0WB2NM …

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