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International Relations prof at U. Illinois. Senior Editor @ArcDigi. Author “Drones and Terrorism.” Politics, national security, and occasional nerdery.

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    Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Feb 6

    Still haven't heard any Iran Deal critic plausibly argue the Middle East would be better today if only Iran had nuclear weapons. Just naive fantasies that Russia and China would've continued sanctions forever, Iran was verging on collapse, or a few airstrikes would've solved it.

    7:53 AM - 6 Feb 2018 from Illinois, USA
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      1. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Feb 6

        Who looks at North Korea and thinks "that's what we need in the Middle East"? An isolated, nuclear-armed rogue state, only larger, richer, and in the world's most volatile region. It's not that the Iran Deal's all good. It's mostly bad. It's just less bad than the alternative.

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      2. Joel Wasserman‏ @joelw_762 Feb 6
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        I think there is a reasonable case to be made that a somewhat harder bargain could have been driven, even recognizing the well-known constraints.

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Feb 6
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        Marginally, maybe. Though it was a multilateral negotiation, and Britain, France, Germany, Russia, and China all found the deal acceptable. Without them on board, the US didn't have leverage. Tinkering with the details might have been possible, but not the main trade-off.

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      4. Joel Wasserman‏ @joelw_762 Feb 6
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        I think that relative leniency benefited the EU countries, RF, & PRC more than it did the US. I certainly buy what you're saying, just think it's up for reasonable debate. That said, reasonable debate was pretty scarce during the whole discourse.

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      5. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Feb 6
        Replying to @joelw_762

        I always support reasonable debate in general, and agree it's possible on this issue (on most things, really). My criticism is that most of the debate hasn't been reasonable.

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