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International Relations prof at U. Illinois. Senior Editor @ArcDigi. Author “Drones and Terrorism.” Politics, national security, and occasional nerdery.

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    Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 9

    Nicholas Grossman Retweeted Nate Silver

    No, no, no. The point isn't Oprah's "appeal" or her "charisma." She's got tons of both and that would make her a formidable candidate. But America needs someone who would be a good president. Who knows how to govern. Getting elected is much less important than running the countryhttps://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/950550182965534721 …

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    Nate SilverVerified account @NateSilver538
    This is a good thread—I think people may be making a mistake by lumping Oprah in with other "celebrities". She's not Mark Zuckerberg or George Clooney. She has much broader and deeper appeal among everyday Americans. https://twitter.com/jeremycyoung/status/950534007346769920 …
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      2. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 9

        Silver, the thread he quotes, and so many others obsess over campaigns as if they matter more than what comes after. It’s politics-as-reality-show. Who cares if the winner of the Apprentice can actually run a business? Bor-ring. Bring on the next season.

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 9

        I'm sure Oprah's a better person than Trump. Because that's not hard. Her business experience is more impressive, since she built it herself rather than inherit it. But their core achievement is the same: turning their name into a popular brand (albeit among different audiences).

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      4. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 9

        Business skills don't neatly translate to governing Business leaders don't navigate checks & balances Their competition's zero sum, while macroeconomics and trade are positive sum And we don't want government seeking endless expansion in pursuit of profithttps://arcdigital.media/chief-executive-officer-98f19e75188b …

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      5. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 9

        Obama didn't have as much experience as I would have liked. But he had relevant education and served in both state and federal government. Oprah studied communications and her whole career has been in media. Zuckerberg studied psych and comp sci, dropped out, and built a website.

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      6. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 9

        The presidency is unique. Nothing can fully prepare you for it. But how would someone have any idea how to do it without time living and breathing in the world of government?

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      7. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 9

        The skills needed to become president have become increasingly divorced from the skills needed to be president If anything, governing experience is an electoral liability, as Americans hold tough decisions against leaders while projecting ideal actions onto political blank slates

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      8. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 9

        Trump says "I can fix it." How? Doesn't say. But you don't have evidence he can't. Hillary was involved in government for years. If she could fix it, wouldn't she have done so already? No, those don't actually make sense. But they resonate electorally if you don't think too hard.

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      9. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 9

        Meanwhile, the media focuses on horse races, and pushes a politics-as-sports narrative rather than treating governing as difficult and important. And they go gaga over celebrities who may (or may not) run. I'll admit I don't know how to fix this. But it's a big problem. (END)

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      2. Billie Brown‏ @billiebrown41 Jan 9
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        THANK you, Nicholas!

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 9
        Replying to @billiebrown41

        My pleasure. Thanks for reading. Always nice to know I’m not just talking into a void.

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      2. if you're one of those people, you won't like me‏ @DeadHeadPhish Jan 9
        Replying to @NGrossman81 @Janettesecond

        We need statesmen/ stateswomen, not celebrities. I'm a huge fan of the dead, Phish, and other jam bands, but I wouldn't want any of them as president. ( Though kudos to Jon fishman for getting elected locally, he may rise up)

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 9
        Replying to @DeadHeadPhish @Janettesecond

        Zombie Jerry for president! (Just kidding. But what about the guys from Moe.?)

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      2. B McNeal‏ @Briankmcneal Jan 9
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Not being snarky, but how do you know Oprah knows how to govern? She's a media personality, and like the one currently in the White House we have no real idea what she would actually do if in office.

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 9
        Replying to @Briankmcneal

        I think she probably doesn’t, because she’s never done anything like it. That doesn’t mean anyone who has government experience would make a good president. Far from it. But for me, that’s a prerequisite.

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      4. B McNeal‏ @Briankmcneal Jan 9
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        1/ What bothers me about all the buzz surround Oprah and a bid for the presidency is that people are falling into the same trap that got us Trump, namely electing people big on personality, with the rest on a find out later basis.

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      2. Shai‏ @ch1pp1ng Jan 9
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        I'm not saying she should run, but you think Oprah would not know how to govern? Or that she would be worse than BushJr, Clinton or Reagan? Hasn't she been a successful business woman, as well as a celebrity?

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      3. #VoteBlue Wallace‏ @AdvocatAmy1 Jan 9
        Replying to @ch1pp1ng @NGrossman81

        Exactly what Nicholas is saying. Being successful in business is not the same as excellence in governance - two different animals. Trump ran on the theory that they were the same. Fooled ya!

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      4. Shai‏ @ch1pp1ng Jan 9
        Replying to @AdvocatAmy1 @NGrossman81

        Well, then my next question (bear with me, just trying to understand) are there many presidents who've been elected who had a track record of excellence in governance?

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      5. #VoteBlue Wallace‏ @AdvocatAmy1 Jan 9
        Replying to @ch1pp1ng @NGrossman81

        Yes.

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      6. Shai‏ @ch1pp1ng Jan 9
        Replying to @AdvocatAmy1 @NGrossman81

        Looked into it, since Reagan. They've all held some governing posts, except Trump. Thinking about it further & about Trump, it makes total sense to me now -they should have experience of governing (successful) before running for president.

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      7. Shai‏ @ch1pp1ng Jan 9
        Replying to @ch1pp1ng @AdvocatAmy1 @NGrossman81

        What I like about the threat of Oprah running is that even just the hint of it has got the far right foaming at the mouth. They're all already attacking her and she hasn't done anything!

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      8. #VoteBlue Wallace‏ @AdvocatAmy1 Jan 9
        Replying to @ch1pp1ng @NGrossman81

        Heh. Heh. Heh. And who knows? It may all be just a strategy on her part...as you said: she’s an excellent businesswoman.

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      9. Shai‏ @ch1pp1ng Jan 9
        Replying to @AdvocatAmy1 @NGrossman81

        I remember Time article 2006 on ambition "Why some people are most likely to succeed" Featured Trump, Oprah, Bill Clinton, Tiger Woods, Martha Stewart, Tom Cruz, J-Lo, Condi Rice, R Branson, etc. All still flying high then. Many since been involved in some sleaze or other.

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