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International Relations prof at U. Illinois. Senior Editor @ArcDigi. Author “Drones and Terrorism.” Politics, national security, and occasional nerdery.

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    Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 3

    All the 25th amendment talk is stupid. It requires a cabinet majority and 2/3 of both houses. And it was designed for the possibility that POTUS has a stoke. Impeachment requires no cabinet, majority of the House, 2/3 of the Senate. Why support the harder option?

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      1. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 3
        Replying to @theta1138

        What sense does that make?

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      2. Kyle Style Podcast‏ @KStylePodcast Jan 4
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Because people think proving Trump is not mentally sound will be easier than proving collusion with Russians.pic.twitter.com/Wk2ii86Elz

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 4
        Replying to @KStylePodcast

        “Collusion with the Russians” isn’t the most likely impeachment charge. Obstruction of justice, corruption, and abuse of power all stronger cases, and have historical precedent.

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      4. Kyle Style Podcast‏ @KStylePodcast Jan 4
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Obstruction of the Mueller investigation? Corruption, violating emoluments clause? Abuse of power, them promoting their brands like executive Kardashians?

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      2. Germ  😷 🤮 Drummond‏ @4eyesJohnny Jan 4
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Impeachment unlikely unless Dems win the House & take office in 2019, or damning Mueller charges. Conviction needs many GOP defections even if Dems win the Senate. A diagnosis of cognitive impairment & inability to discharge duties could trigger 25th Amendment moves quicker.

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 4
        Replying to @4eyesJohnny

        Why? The same Republicans would have to vote for either. It just takes more for 25th.

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      4. Germ  😷 🤮 Drummond‏ @4eyesJohnny Jan 4
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        It would be a lot easier politically to jump ship if you have top medical or psychiatric experts say that 45 is medically unfit and his tenure is dangerous for the nation.

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      5. Germ  😷 🤮 Drummond‏ @4eyesJohnny Jan 4
        Replying to @4eyesJohnny @NGrossman81

        The book comments about inability to focus, short-term memory problems, repeating oneself, are scary to anyone who's known dementia victims.

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      6. Germ  😷 🤮 Drummond‏ @4eyesJohnny Jan 4
        Replying to @4eyesJohnny @NGrossman81

        This is a man who, twice, had public signings of executive orders and forgot to sign them until reminded. Once, it was funny. Second time, eerrr...

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      2. Rick Petree‏ @RickPetree Jan 4
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        I'm not a supporter of removal via 25th Amend. in our current circs. It is, however, easier than you indicate. Removal requires only that the VP and a majority of the Cabinet NOTIFY the Pres pro tem of the Senate and the Speaker of the House that POTUS is unable to discharge+

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      3. Rick Petree‏ @RickPetree Jan 4
        Replying to @RickPetree @NGrossman81

        the duties of the office. No action by Senate or House is required, following such notification. Congress only wd get involved if a dispute later arose between POTUS and the 'Acting President,' i.e., if POTUS subsequently notifies Congress that his previous disability has +

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      4. Rick Petree‏ @RickPetree Jan 4
        Replying to @RickPetree @NGrossman81

        ended, and he's ready to resume the office, and if the Acting President and majority of Cabinet continue to assert POTUS' disability, there's a fact-finding role for Congress to settle the dispute.

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      5. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jan 4
        Replying to @RickPetree

        Unless the president accepts it--and there's no reason to assume he would--then it's up to Congress and requires 2/3 of both houses. That's a higher bar to clear.

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      6. Rick Petree‏ @RickPetree Jan 4
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        True, in terms of procedure. But can you imagine the political situation if VP and a majority of the Cabinet continued to insist POTUS is disabled, while POTUS is denying it ? The VP & Cabinet wd only have triggered 25th A. after carefully lining up support on Hill.+

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      7. Rick Petree‏ @RickPetree Jan 4
        Replying to @RickPetree @NGrossman81

        In current situation, I think Trump wd be history as soon as Pence and cohort make their move. It wd. represent the GOP's face saving way of removing him, side stepping full airing of 'crimes & misdemeanors' in impeachment process.+

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      8. Rick Petree‏ @RickPetree Jan 4
        Replying to @RickPetree @NGrossman81

        So, I think GOP elites may be attracted by 25th A. at some point. They're increasingly disconnected, however, from the Trump 'base' and Trump, or someone acting on his behalf, cd easily call that base into the streets with cries of 'Deep State coup !' Therein lies danger.

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      1. Soul Cab  🚕 🚖‏ @TheSoulCab Jan 3
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Just guessing. Maybe if the cabinet does it first and it's based on ability as opposed to political views, it saves face for the GOP?

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      1. Joe The Intern‏ @JoeyD714 Jan 4
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Why bother with either. both will be futile as the president has done nothing wrong and is in full possession of his faculties and his health. Here's novel idea, instead of trying to get rid of every president we ever get, why not try to work WITH them to solve REAL problems?

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