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International Relations prof at U. Illinois. Senior Editor @ArcDigi. Author “Drones and Terrorism.” Politics, national security, and occasional nerdery.

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    1. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Dec 2017

      Nicholas Grossman Retweeted Hillel Neuer

      I think I can answer this one. Because circumstances and international laws have changed somewhat over 2200 years.https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/status/940755997605416960 …

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      Hillel NeuerVerified account @HillelNeuer
      Thank you, Mr. President, but if you celebrate the Maccabees' 2nd Century BCE rededication of Jerusalem's Second Temple, why did you enable the UN to rule it's in 'Occupied Palestinian Territory', and that Israel's presence there is a 'flagrant violation' of international law'? https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/940737366255423488 …
      2 replies 6 retweets 16 likes
    2. Hillel Neuer‏Verified account @HillelNeuer 13 Dec 2017
      Replying to @NGrossman81

      And when in those 2200 years was Jerusalem ruled by the Palestinians?

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    3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Dec 2017
      Replying to @HillelNeuer

      How is that relevant? Philistines ruled Ashdod. Should Israel forfeit it? Do you want to return Judea to Rome? I answer no to both those questions. My point is things change over time, and ancient (or even moderately old) history is not the determinant of current policy or law.

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    4. Hillel Neuer‏Verified account @HillelNeuer 13 Dec 2017
      Replying to @NGrossman81

      Except here the League of Nations recognized the indigenous rights of the Jewish people, enshrining in international law "the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country." http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp …

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      Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Dec 2017
      Replying to @HillelNeuer

      I would never argue Jews don't have a historical connection to the land of Israel (how could you?) or that the modern country should somehow go away. But your link doesn't mention Jerusalem. And Article 13 says League of Nations responsible for holy places. Is that what you want?

      11:01 AM - 13 Dec 2017 from Urbana, IL
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        2. Hillel Neuer‏Verified account @HillelNeuer 13 Dec 2017
          Replying to @NGrossman81

          You argued that the historic ties of the Jewish people to the land of Israel were irrelevant to modern international law. Will you concede that the 1922 League of Nations recognition of the indigenous rights of the Jewish people renders those ancient ties less than irrelevant?

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        3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Dec 2017
          Replying to @HillelNeuer

          Not irrelevant. Never used the world irrelevant and that wasn't an accident. I said not determinant. Meaning not the only relevant factor. Especially regarding the specific legal boundaries of 21st century Jerusalem.

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        4. Hillel Neuer‏Verified account @HillelNeuer 14 Dec 2017
          Replying to @NGrossman81

          Your words on the historic ties were: "How is that relevant?"

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        5. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 14 Dec 2017
          Replying to @HillelNeuer

          Scroll up. Look at what I wrote that in response to.

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