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International Relations prof at U. Illinois. Senior Editor @ArcDigi. Author “Drones and Terrorism.” Politics, national security, and occasional nerdery.

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    Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017

    (THREAD) "What about #Hillary-#Ukraine?" is a lame excuse. But comparing to #TrumpRussia & #DonaldTrumpJr raises interesting questions. 1/xpic.twitter.com/4OucOwcw7K

    1:26 PM - 13 Jul 2017
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    • chris George Rennie Corrine A. Lund Jounda Strong Cheryl “Grab ‘em by the Midterms” R 💁‍♀️🚺🇺🇸🦅🍩🌊 Jsurfer The Straight Up Blog TiaⓋ. AbiHasTheBlues
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      2. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Where's the line between normal foreign attempts to influence an election and illegitimate #collusion with a foreign power? #TrumpRussia 2/x

        2 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Given America's position in the world, other countries care about US elections. Statements, op-eds, etc. are normal. #TrumpRussia 3/x

        2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
      4. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        #Putin called #Trump smart and Ukrainian Ambassador Valeriy Chaly wrote an op-ed criticizing Trump. Nothing wrong with that #TrumpRussia 4/x

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      5. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        But stealing emails and selectively releasing some of them, hacking voter databases and stealing info, and targeted propaganda ≠ fine. 5/x

        3 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
      6. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        No question Russian interference much more extensive than Ukrainian. The question is about #TrumpRussia and #Hillary-#Ukraine #collusion 6/x

        1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
      7. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Alexandra Chalupa worked for DNC. Researched #PaulManafort and got some help from the Ukrainian government. #TrumpRussiaCollusion 7/x

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      8. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        But no top #Clinton people worked with Ukraine. #DonaldTrumpJr, #JaredKushner, and #PaulManafort = top people, and all directly involved 8/x

        2 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
      9. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        We now have evidence that #DonaldTrumpJr sought #TrumpRussiaCollusion, but no equivalent from #Clinton people. https://arcdigital.media/thanks-to-donald-trump-jr-im-no-longer-a-trump-russia-skeptic-a34443eaba8b … 9/x

        1 reply 3 retweets 7 likes
      10. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Russia's an adversary. Ukraine, if not a formal ally, is a partner. But we don't want friends interfering in our elections either. 10/x

        2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
      11. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        #Putin directed the effort. #Ukraine's independent prosecutor investigated #PaulManafort for helping Ukraine's former pro-Russia pres. 11/x

        1 reply 2 retweets 3 likes
      12. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Ukraine's #PaulManafort investigation was published. #DonaldTrumpJr tried to gather dirt in a secret meeting. 12/xpic.twitter.com/C9J7GsneCH

        1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
      13. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        But (at least as far as we know now), #DonaldTrumpJr's meeting didn't result in info handed over. Ukrainian embassy gave Chalupa tips. 13/x

        1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
      14. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        #PaulManafort got pushed out. But that could have been from public info. #TrumpRussiaCollusion might have tipped the election (maybe). 14/x

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      15. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        #TrumpRussiaCollusion looks more extensive, involving higher up officials. But did #HillaryUkraine #collusion cross the line? 15/x

        1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
      16. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        #Whataboutism says two wrongs make a right. But if #HillaryUkraine #collusion was wrong, it doesn't make #TrumpRussiaCollusion right. 16/x

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      17. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        I'm amazed anyone falls for "What about #Hillary?" (or #Obama, #LorettaLynch, etc.) But so many buy it. #Whataboutism 17/x

        4 replies 2 retweets 8 likes
      18. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Still, #TrumpRussia being worse than #Hillary-Ukraine #collusion doesn't mean the latter is right. 18/x

        2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
      19. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        We need to figure out where to draw the line between #collusion & normal campaign interactions with foreigners. This isn't going away. (END)

        1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
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      1. chris‏ @chriskrchr 13 Jul 2017
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Except that:pic.twitter.com/TipBDOOEFw

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