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International Relations prof at U. Illinois. Senior Editor @ArcDigi. Author “Drones and Terrorism.” Politics, national security, and occasional nerdery.

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    1. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 26

      Nicholas Grossman Retweeted Ben Shapiro

      "An obvious nut job" would likely be more susceptible to public rhetoric not less. We don't know if the bomber is actually "an obvious nut job." But if he's incapable of discerning right from wrong, then he'd have trouble dismissing public figures' verbal attacks as just trollinghttps://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1055835847570817024 …

      Nicholas Grossman added,

      Ben ShapiroVerified account @benshapiro
      Now comes the part where we allow the entire nation to be consumed in analyzing the motives of an obvious nut job so we can claim the other side is evil and violent. Yay!
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    2. Ken‏ @Bandaidken Oct 26
      Replying to @NGrossman81

      So, we should restrict speech to just the “nice” political speech?

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    3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 26
      Replying to @Bandaidken

      No. Any other questions?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Ken‏ @Bandaidken Oct 26
      Replying to @NGrossman81

      Your solution?

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    5. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 26
      Replying to @Bandaidken

      I try my best to use precise language, make clear what I’m criticizing, never spread inaccurate information, and always insist nonviolence is the only acceptable path. I’d like more to try to do the same. Under no illusions this’ll solve everything. Could make things a bit better

      2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
    6. Ken‏ @Bandaidken Oct 26
      Replying to @NGrossman81

      Watching the Kav hearings it became clear to me that the left has taken our political world in a new direction. We have to call them out with clear and direct language. The “resist” mentality has gone mainstream and our being demure (for lack of a better word) won’t work.

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      Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 26
      Replying to @Bandaidken

      Calling out people’s behavior in direct language is very different from insisting they’re literally in league with the devil, openly fantasizing about civil war, and spreading images that could easily be interpreted as a call for violence.

      10:05 AM - 26 Oct 2018 from Urbana, IL
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        2. Ken‏ @Bandaidken Oct 26
          Replying to @NGrossman81

          I think that the examples you are citing are interpretations of speech, not actual speech... When did Trump say he wanted Civil War or call for violence?

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        3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 26
          Replying to @Bandaidken

          Didn’t say he did. But since you brought it up, he’s never done the former, but has praised people for violence (eg Gianforte) while offering to pay legal expenses for supporters who use violence. Maybe he doesn’t mean it literally. If so, my point is not everyone will get that.

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        4. Ken‏ @Bandaidken Oct 26
          Replying to @NGrossman81

          I go back to my point about blaming speech for the actions of others. I don’t think there is a straight line cause and effect. Especially, if this person has a mental illness.

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        5. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 26
          Replying to @Bandaidken

          Everyone is responsible for their own actions. When someone commits violence, they bear primary responsibility. But it’s naive to think prominent figures’ speech never influenced anyone. Both are true. It’s not either/or.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        6. Ken‏ @Bandaidken Oct 26
          Replying to @NGrossman81

          Well, it’s designed to influence others... who are sane. Do we really think we have to adjust our speech to accomodate the mentally ill, who will interpret even benign language through a sick filter?

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        7. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 26
          Replying to @Bandaidken

          Public figures should consider how their speech will be received by various audiences. Won’t always get it right, but should try. To the extent that speech influences mentally ill people, I’m skeptical that peaceful and violent images influence them to violence at similar rates.

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        8. Ken‏ @Bandaidken Oct 26
          Replying to @NGrossman81

          Jodie Foster did not say anything to influence the assasination attempt on Reagan... Neither did anyone else, as I recall. Same for Sanders with the assasination attempt of Scalise and others. I don’t think you can draw a cause and effect.

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