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International Relations prof at U. Illinois. Senior Editor @ArcDigi. Author “Drones and Terrorism.” Politics, national security, and occasional nerdery.

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    Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 10

    What is "political correctness"? I know most Americans say they don't like it. But I'm not sure all of them could clearly articulate what exactly it is that they don't like. And I suspect many who say they don't like political correctness have different definitions.

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      1. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 10

        Many interesting replies to “what is political correctness?” (see comments on top tweet in thread—thanks to those who responded) Note how few of the definitions match each other. Not a scientific sample, but still shows how we’re nowhere near a universal understanding of the term

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      2. r/The_Donald watch‏ @Lazarus___Long Oct 10
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        I'd say using less apt or less expedient language in order to avoid being offensive or perceived as insensitive. Sometimes that tradeoff is worth it; often it's not.

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 10
        Replying to @Lazarus___Long

        I think this is my favorite definition so far.

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      4. rebecca milliken‏ @rebeccamillike2 Oct 10
        Replying to @NGrossman81 @Lazarus___Long

        I would disagree with saying it’s often not worth the trade off. It depends on who is listening and what you are saying. The whole point is to listen when someone says they are offended and change your perspective and language if necessary.

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      5. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 10
        Replying to @rebeccamillike2 @Lazarus___Long

        It depends on “often.” I would’ve said “sometimes,” which I think puts me closer to your position.

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      6. r/The_Donald watch‏ @Lazarus___Long Oct 10
        Replying to @NGrossman81 @rebeccamillike2

        I think if you know that your word choice will genuinely offend someone, it's almost always worth adjusting your language to avoid that. But it seems like that's often not the case.

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      7. r/The_Donald watch‏ @Lazarus___Long Oct 10
        Replying to @Lazarus___Long @NGrossman81 @rebeccamillike2

        Example: I would always call someone the pronouns they prefer. Not calling someone what they want to be called isn't just un-PC, it's being an asshole. However, I think asking everyone to introduce themselves with their pronouns sacrifices too much time to be worth it.

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      1. .99Luft 🎈 🤡‏ @LouisCanon Oct 10
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        This essay might be a good place to start:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/30/political-correctness-how-the-right-invented-phantom-enemy-donald-trump …

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      1. Chris Wilhelm‏ @cwilhelm2014 Oct 10
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        It's stuff I don't agree with. Stuff I do agree with is high-minded principle.

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      1. Susan G. Bohs‏ @SbohsNJ Oct 10
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        It’s what used to be called common decency. Now it’s oppression.

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      1. tracey d and tobie‏ @tc1242000 Oct 10
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        I might not be able to define it, but I remember people were a lot more polite when we were "politically correct."

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      1. Tony O‏ @tonyOtally Oct 10
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        @SouthPark fans know what it is - unfunny

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      2. Paul Manata‏ @MaulPanata Oct 10
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        A popular and standard-ish dictionary definition is “Someone who is politically correct believes that language and actions that could be offensive to others, especially those relating to sex and race, should be avoided.” This is false.

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      3. Paul Manata‏ @MaulPanata Oct 10
        Replying to @MaulPanata @NGrossman81

        One reason is it conflates being politically correct with being polite, civil, and respectful of others and it conflates being politically incorrect with being rude, offensive, and disrespectful of others.

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      1. Depleted Carbon‏ @brienbarnett Oct 10
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        At the most basic is restricting speech to what's acceptable to other people. I describe things as politically correct if I think there is grey area or room for nuance but the prevailing view of others holds me to one view. It is not the same as wanting to be a jackass.

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      1. craigsuperstar‏ @craigsuperstar Oct 10
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        It means disallowing the saying of things that are correct, b/c of political considerations. Like, "UBI won't work because the bottom 3% will blow the money on shiny things and lotto" - most politicians wouldn't say that. Or, "our foreign policy is based on naked self-interest".

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      1. Amy~GOPnevermore‏ @acma1967 Oct 10
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        I'd say simply conforming to current cultural ethos, even & especially in contrast to reason/common sense.

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      1. Dr. Shadow‏ @megadave5000 Oct 10
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        Not my definition but I think most people would say a working definition is any speech that is policed by a cultural authority on the left

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