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International Relations prof at U. Illinois. Senior Editor @ArcDigi. Author “Drones and Terrorism.” Politics, national security, and occasional nerdery.

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    1. The Reagan Battalion‏Verified account @ReaganBattalion Oct 3

      You are only black if you are a Democrat. You are only a female if you are a Democrat. You are only gay if you are a Democrat. We believe her (if she is a Democrat) Your allegations only matter if it’s against Republicans.

      44 replies 42 retweets 188 likes
    2. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 3
      Replying to @ReaganBattalion

      This is a thing that would make sense if Al Franken were still a Senator.

      1 reply 0 retweets 26 likes
    3. Paul Manata‏ @MaulPanata Oct 3
      Replying to @NGrossman81 @ReaganBattalion

      Add a “defeasibly” operator in front of the claims. “Like normally birds fly.” The existence of an ostrich doesn’t defeat the rule. You expect conservatives to be completely thankful because there’s an ostrich and emu?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 3
      Replying to @MaulPanata @ReaganBattalion

      I expect everyone to be accurate, and “your allegations only matter if it’s against Republicans” is inaccurate. To show that it’s inaccurate, I cited an example in which allegations against a non-Republican mattered.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Paul Manata‏ @MaulPanata Oct 3
      Replying to @NGrossman81 @ReaganBattalion

      Accurate if stating defensible *rules*. Anyway, stick a “normally” operator in front of the rules to make its structure clear to you. And that seems true. Do you seriously expect us to ignore the rule with your “Butt Franken!” argument?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 3
      Replying to @MaulPanata @ReaganBattalion

      I expect people to include recent cases when discussing supposed "rules," yes. If the most notable recent case defies the rule, maybe it isn't a rule after all.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Paul Manata‏ @MaulPanata Oct 3
      Replying to @NGrossman81 @ReaganBattalion

      Interesting, I don’t.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 3
      Replying to @MaulPanata @ReaganBattalion

      How many times can the opposite of a "rule" happen before it's no longer a rule?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Paul Manata‏ @MaulPanata Oct 3
      Replying to @NGrossman81 @ReaganBattalion

      I don’t think there’s some number which applies to all cases. Why don’t you look at cases where we only have *say-sos* (as in Ford’s v weak case) and tell me how many we have on both sides. Not very good evidence when your counter is one we have pictures, and multiple accusers

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      Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 3
      Replying to @MaulPanata @ReaganBattalion

      The most prominent Republican faces many accusations of sexual assault, hasn’t hurt him. A prominent Democrat got accused of far less, ousted from Senate. “Your allegations only matter if it’s against Republicans” does not match reality.

      5:48 PM - 3 Oct 2018 from Urbana, IL
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        2. Paul Manata‏ @MaulPanata Oct 3
          Replying to @NGrossman81 @ReaganBattalion

          Again, the entire force of your reply is to take that phrase woodenly literal, hence why you think one example disproves it. But I’d say you and I live in different epistemic universes if you think none of that has hurt trump.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 3
          Replying to @MaulPanata @ReaganBattalion

          Yes, the point I made was the point I was trying to make. If you’re interested in arguing against a point I didn’t make, I can’t help you.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Paul Manata‏ @MaulPanata Oct 3
          Replying to @NGrossman81 @ReaganBattalion

          I began by agreeing with you but then gave a subtler reading to the claims which avoided you simplistic gotcha. If you didn’t want to go down that road, should’ve just replied “oh I don’t care about that, Imma get my daily dose of low hanging fruit.” I can be smarmy too. :)

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        5. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Oct 3
          Replying to @MaulPanata @ReaganBattalion

          It’s not a simplistic gotcha. It’s arguing that two years of new data should be factored in. I don’t know why you’re so adamant that it shouldn’t.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Paul Manata‏ @MaulPanata Oct 3
          Replying to @NGrossman81 @ReaganBattalion

          Oh then I don’t see how your point was responsive to what I said. I have no problem factoring the new data in. So ... I’m lost.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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