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International Relations prof at U. Illinois. Senior Editor @ArcDigi. Author “Drones and Terrorism.” Politics, national security, and occasional nerdery.

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    1. Noah Rothman‏Verified account @NoahCRothman Sep 4

      The anecdote about secdef ignoring an order from the president of the united states seems likely to be an incomplete telling of that situation. I would be cautious about that one.

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      Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Sep 4
      Replying to @NoahCRothman

      And doubly cautious about cheering it. Maybe you like the military ignoring this order from this POTUS. But you really don't want a system in which the military ignores the commander in chief when it wants to.

      8:43 AM - 4 Sep 2018 from Urbana, IL
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        2. Noah Rothman‏Verified account @NoahCRothman Sep 4
          Replying to @NGrossman81

          I don't think that's what happened here.

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        3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Sep 4
          Replying to @NoahCRothman

          Meaning you don't buy Woodward's account? I agree with that skepticism. Nevertheless, I've still seen people who uncritically accept the account and are cheering Mattis for ignoring the order.

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        4. Noah Rothman‏Verified account @NoahCRothman Sep 4
          Replying to @NGrossman81

          I just think many more things occurred before and after this conversation that render WH's response to Syrian chem deployments more normal. Just smells like missing context,.

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        5. Known Scary Gnomes‏ @UnknownUngnomes Sep 4
          Replying to @NoahCRothman @NGrossman81

          I'll grant that possibility. Either way, between the two, this was not a Moynihanian or Wilsonian moment. @KyleWOrton @peterawolf

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        6. Kyle Orton‏Verified account @KyleWOrton Sep 4
          Replying to @UnknownUngnomes @NoahCRothman and

          I don't read it as ignoring an order. It seems to be early in the process, this was Trump's reaction, and Mattis used the process to work him down with all the usual guff - the "risk" of killing Russians, the air defences, attacks by Iran's proxies on U.S. troops in Iraq, etc.

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        7. Known Scary Gnomes‏ @UnknownUngnomes Sep 4
          Replying to @KyleWOrton @NoahCRothman and

          Gotta keep that "political Islam" under control Kyle! All "swimmin' in the same sea". God-forbid we confront Iran Proxies. >.<

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        1. WTFWJD?‏ @phac3ti0us Sep 4
          Replying to @NGrossman81 @NoahCRothman

          We do NOT want that to be SOP.

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