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International Relations prof at U. Illinois. Senior Editor @ArcDigi. Author “Drones and Terrorism.” Politics, national security, and occasional nerdery.

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    1. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Aug 27

      Complaint that media was mean to McCain is nuts (whether or not you add "and this is why we got Trump") Overall, very positive. Perpetuated "maverick" brand. McCain joked media was his base. David Brooks called him McCain (R-media). Take a break from grievance-mongering for once.

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    2. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Aug 27

      Nicholas Grossman Retweeted Ben Shapiro

      Notion that the media was mean to McCain and that caused Trump is weirdly widespread, despite the fact that the media was much better to him than most other politicians (something McCain and prominent media figures readily acknowledged). 2/xhttps://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1034121680287744004 …

      Nicholas Grossman added,

      Ben ShapiroVerified account @benshapiro
      The Media Properly Honor John McCain After His Death. Their Scorn For Him In 2008 Helped Make Trump. https://www.dailywire.com/news/35076/media-properly-honor-john-mccain-after-his-death-ben-shapiro … pic.twitter.com/4HnP8Xhp6Q
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    3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Aug 27

      Nicholas Grossman Retweeted James Hasson

      Yes, McCain was civil, got smeared, and lost. Romney was civil, got smeared, and lost. Then GOP nominated Trump. Gore was civil, got smeared, and lost. Kerry was civil, got smeared, and lost. Then Dems nominated Obama. Maybe causal factor isn't smears. 3/xhttps://twitter.com/JamesHasson20/status/1033848224954691585 …

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      James Hasson @JamesHasson20
      Completely agree. A chunk of the base watched McCain be civil, get smeared, and lose. Then they watched Romney be civil, get smeared, and lose. So they concluded the nominee would be smeared regardless, norms didn’t matter, and only winning elections mattered. Enter Trump. https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/1033731428520001537 …
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    4. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Aug 27

      Of 21st century POTUS candidates, media covered Obama and McCain most positively (in that order). I'd argue they deserved it (relatively). You might disagree. Doesn't mean McCain wasn't criticized. Smeared even. Of course he was. He was running for president. 4/x

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    5. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Aug 27

      FFS, take some personal responsibility. Republicans had many options in 2016. Multiple people of integrity. Chose Trump anyway. It's not because political opponents and media figures were mean to McCain and Romney. It's because Republican voters wanted Trump. 5/x

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    6. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Aug 27

      I don't doubt that many Republicans believe that harsh public criticism of McCain and Romney made them vote Trump. But that's an excuse. A shirking of responsibility. And it's pathetic. 6/x

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    7. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Aug 27

      "Some people were mean to me, so I had to do something terrible to everyone" is a supervillain origin story, not a reasoned political argument. You're adults. Citizens. Voters. Own your choices. (END)

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    8. Wangler‏ @Akh96Wangler Aug 27
      Replying to @NGrossman81

      What plant were you living on in 2008 and 2012?

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    9. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Aug 27
      Replying to @Akh96Wangler

      Earth. Although I've become less certain this is Earth 1 (kidding, kidding).

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    10. Wangler‏ @Akh96Wangler Aug 27
      Replying to @NGrossman81

      lol. I was harsh, sorry. But, so was media coverage of McCain: http://www.journalism.org/files/legacy/WINNING%20THE%20MEDIA%20CAMPAIGN%20FINAL.pdf …

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      Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Aug 27
      Replying to @Akh96Wangler

      I didn't say all coverage was positive. Just that McCain's overall relationship with the press was, and that either way, it's pathetic to claim 2008 media coverage forced anyone to vote a certain way in 2016.

      6:58 PM - 27 Aug 2018 from Urbana, IL
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        1. Wangler‏ @Akh96Wangler Aug 27
          Replying to @NGrossman81

          Agreed, but if shenanigans like leaked debate questions occurred in 2008 or 2012, it means media was directly trying to influence the vote, and not just reporting news.

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