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International Relations prof at U. Illinois. Senior Editor @ArcDigi. Author “Drones and Terrorism.” Politics, national security, and occasional nerdery.

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    Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jul 15

    Nicholas Grossman Retweeted Josh Campbell

    It’s not weird that Paul’s making this argument. Rand, like his father, has always believed the fantasy that if America left everyone alone, everyone would leave America alone. The weird part is other Republicans, who used to know better, adapting this argument.https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1018475507363352576 …

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    US Senator @RandPaul on CNN— The Russians "are going to spy on us, they do spy on us, they’re going to interfere in our elections. We also do the same.... We all do it. What we need to do is make sure our electoral process is protected." Calls the Mueller probe a "witch hunt."
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      1. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jul 15

        Yes, American intelligence operatives violate foreign laws, and foreign intelligence operatives violate US laws. But that doesn’t mean anyone should roll over and take it. Crime + crime = 2 crimes. Not zero. US counterintelligence shouldn’t unilaterally disarm.

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      2. H.G. Flores‏ @ElCapitahn Jul 15
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        I don't think this is the argument he is making. Ron & Rand believe in non-intervention via entangling alliances and/or unilateral military action. Diplomacy, trade, and spying is common and less harmful than reliance on military to solve problems

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jul 15
        Replying to @ElCapitahn

        He’s arguing that the US shouldn’t try to discover or prosecute violations of US law by foreign intelligence operatives. More broadly, you may be right. But I don’t see how that’s a defense of ending the Mueller investigation.

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      4. H.G. Flores‏ @ElCapitahn Jul 15
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Full disclosure, I didn't get a chance to see the interview with Rand Paul. If he is using the "we all do it" narrative as a means to end the Mueller investigation, it is a dangerous precedent. "Whatabouism" justifying a disarming of counterintelligence operations.

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      2. Paul tincher‏ @myjapanfriend Jul 15
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        It's the "We all do it" cop out.

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jul 15
        Replying to @myjapanfriend

        Exactly. Although a weird blind spot—we all do counterintelligence and law enforcement too.

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      4. Paul tincher‏ @myjapanfriend Jul 15
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Well, if it doesn't fit the narrative, just leave it out.

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      1. craigsuperstar‏ @craigsuperstar Jul 15
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        Yes, people forget that Russia also interferes in Swiss elections all the time /s

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