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International Relations prof at U. Illinois. Senior Editor @ArcDigi. Author “Drones and Terrorism.” Politics, national security, and occasional nerdery.

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    Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jul 13

    Nicholas Grossman Retweeted Jonathan Alter

    Making too much of this. What's the theory? Russian intel ops ready to go, but waiting for Trump's public ok? Not ready, but Trump suggested it and they quickly threw something together? Yes, Trump deserves criticism for his statement. But evidence of collusion? I'm skeptical.https://twitter.com/jonathanalter/status/1017826125094047745 …

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    Jonathan AlterVerified account @jonathanalter
    July 27, 2016: A future president asks a hostile foreign power to commit crimes and attack the United States at the core of our democracy, and by evening that hostile power complies. A day that will live in infamy.
    8:48 PM - 13 Jul 2018
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      2. Tenacious E‏ @EmilyEggbert Jul 13
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Not that, but are not the congressional candidate and the close associate of the Trump campaign implicated in collusion? I think clearly.

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jul 13
        Replying to @EmilyEggbert

        Yes, I think that's implied in the indictment.

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      2. RWAResearch‏ @ResearchRwa Jul 14
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        I see it not as a precise coordination, but as a plain indication of a collaborative mindset. He knew such hacking was occurring, he liked it and wanted it to continue because it was being done to help him, and therefore, it made sense for him to call out targets for attack.

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jul 14
        Replying to @ResearchRwa

        That’s more plausible to me. I’d add that he didn’t even need to be calling out targets. Just aware Russia was making an effort, happy to have the help, and running his mouth in public.

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      2. Jordan Bray  🇺🇸 ❄️ 📝‏ @dmf71 Jul 14
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        It is not evidence of coordinated collusion per se, at least not at that point, that collusion comes later with the Trump tower meeting. It is opportunistic collusion which has unfolded into a coordinated approach which will be culminated in Helsinki. There the Christian, White..

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jul 14
        Replying to @dmf71

        That's more plausible to me. If we take it like Don Jr.'s "I love it"--as an expressed willingness to collude or at least support for Russia's election interference efforts--then it's another piece of a big puzzle, rather than the smoking gun it's being portrayed as.

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      2. Varad Mehta‏ @varadmehta Jul 13
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Alter is short a few marbles.

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      3. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jul 13
        Replying to @varadmehta

        I've seen variations on the same accusation coming from a lot of people. Doesn't look like any of them stopped to think how this would actually work, whether as part of a pre-coordinated plan or an improvised reaction.

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      4. Varad Mehta‏ @varadmehta Jul 13
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        This has been going on with Mueller from day one. There's a desire that there is a magic formula or silver bullet that will slay the beast. It's a kind of gnosticism, that there's secret knowledge that is only waiting to be uncovered. It's a religious belief.

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      2. WTFWJD?‏ @phac3ti0us Jul 13
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Could have been a way for trump to say he accepted the offer of quid, pro and you know. It was pre-arranged. If he said it in public, that was his "handshake" to seal the deal. I know...pure speculation. I'm hitting send anyway.

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      3. Bill David‏ @proust1974 Jul 13
        Replying to @phac3ti0us @NGrossman81

        Shouldn’t the pre-arranged signal be something less incriminating? “Blue horseshoe loves Anacott Steel”, or something...

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      4. Nicholas Grossman‏ @NGrossman81 Jul 13
        Replying to @proust1974 @phac3ti0us

        But if they could pre-arrange a signal, why not give the signal through the same private lines of communication rather than a semi-ambiguous public statement?

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      5. Bill David‏ @proust1974 Jul 13
        Replying to @NGrossman81 @phac3ti0us

        Indeed. A lot of the Russia stuff comes from our attempt to retrofit a kind of order to events that were chaotic and random when they were actually occurring.

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      1. Jeff Smith‏ @bureau_13 Jul 13
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Not inconceivable that Trump knew it was coming and couldn't keep his mouth shut

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      1. I'm not Sara‏ @NotSara_Sarah Jul 13
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        I'm with you here.

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      1. Mad Nana‏ @MadNana51 Jul 13
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        What's your theory? Just harmless playing around by GRU? Nothing to see here? Coincidences? I love WikiLeaks! How willfully blind can you be? #Putin would be so proud. cc @jonathanalter

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      1. Dr Louise Holman‏ @drlouiseholman Jul 13
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        The deal was sealed when he asked for it publicly. It would appeal to TrImp's ego and warped sense of humor to stick one over the Establishment this way, instead of e.g. placing a coded ad in the Personal column, or leaving an envelope in a newspaper on a park bench.

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      1. Nadelle Wilson  🌊 ❄#GlovesOff‏ @NadelleWilson Jul 13
        Replying to @NGrossman81

        Well we certainly need our realists and skeptics but one can hope. :)

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