"James Webb will be so sensitive, it could detect the heat signature of a bumblebee at the distance of the moon". This is mind blowing!
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I was asked if I checked this by
@mpoessel. Well, now I did. Assumption: bumblebee reflects sunlight. ~Same brightness as candle. 1/n3 replies 0 retweets 2 likesShow this thread -
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Or directly: F_nu [Jy] = B_nu(10 micron, T bumblebee) * 2pi * solid angle bumblebee = 3 µJy -- easily detectable. https://jwst.stsci.edu/files/live/sites/jwst/files/home/instrumentation/technical%20documents/paper9.pdf …
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But now it's on the moon, itself a reflective surface. What's the bumblebee s/n?
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Indeed. So within the PSF we have BB_sun * r * PSF * pi/4 * 4*pi/2 = 1.6 Jy. r = reflectivity at 10 µm ~ 0.1% http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032063303000175?via%3Dihub …
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So the SNR in front of the moon is 3e-6/sqrt(1.6) ~ 1e-6 which means, after all, that
#JWST in fact cannot detect a bumblebee at the moon.https://twitter.com/LeoBurtscher/status/912402870003265537 …Leo Burtscher added,
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Only at the dark side. Which it also shouldn't look at from L2 due to sun's opposition. So maybe during an eclipse, ... 1/2
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...which would need to be an earth-sun-eclipse b/c the moon is too small. Complicated. 2/2
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Ah, here's the documentation that shows that
@NASAWebb can't look at the#moon as expected: https://jwst-docs.stsci.edu/display/JPP/Field+of+Regard+Considerations+for+Moving+Targets …2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
Note that there isn't a "dark side" of the Moon - both near and far get sunlight. And no, the moon is too bright for us to observe.
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Seen from L2 the Moon is at a forbidden solar elongation angle in the first place...
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