They are humans. That has been answered by science. Whether they are a person is a question for the philosophers.
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Replying to @ThisIsJustToSa1 @mgorena and
Proto humans, clearly. Since I have a philosophy degree and have written peer reviewed work in that field I guess I'll weigh in for all Philosophers: not yet a person.
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Replying to @Mythos_Media @ThisIsJustToSa1 and
If you have a philosophy degree then you know it's not an objective or universal field. There are plenty of philosophers who do believe it's a person, and many who don't. There are also philosophical definitions of personhood which newborns and toddlers do not meet.
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Replying to @ashboi_ @ThisIsJustToSa1 and
Well. That's why I was poking fun at the initial assertion about "leave it to the philosphers", yeah.pic.twitter.com/R6flpsliMK
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Replying to @Mythos_Media @ThisIsJustToSa1 and
I think the point is more that making assertions about humanity shouldn't be part of the discussion, but it should be about personhood. There is an objective scientific definition for what it is to be living and human, and fetuses meet this standard.
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Replying to @ashboi_ @Mythos_Media and
Like all ethical questions, abortion and personhood are matters of philosophy. Making claims such as "a fetus isn't human" is simply inaccurate and undercuts the pro-choice position. Many people say they mean personhood when they say "human" but they are fundamentally different
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Replying to @ashboi_ @Mythos_Media and
It’s a human fetus...but it’s not a human being. Not yet.
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They are human beings unless you are implying that human beings are the only animals which can be considered persons and not the hypothetical alien beings.
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Replying to @Mythos_Media @mgorena and
Personhood is a complicated issue which includes whether AI, aliens, and animals would be considered people.
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Right. The hierarchy of sentience and whatnot. This attempts to ground ethics in reason. (Upon close scrutiny imo it fails, as reason isn't what our ethics are actually grounded upon. But unpacking that is a thesis not a tweet.)
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Replying to @Mythos_Media @ThisIsJustToSa1 and
At any rate, I don't think anyone was talking about aliens.
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