They are humans. That has been answered by science. Whether they are a person is a question for the philosophers.
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Replying to @ThisIsJustToSa1 @mgorena and
Proto humans, clearly. Since I have a philosophy degree and have written peer reviewed work in that field I guess I'll weigh in for all Philosophers: not yet a person.
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Replying to @Mythos_Media @ThisIsJustToSa1 and
If you have a philosophy degree then you know it's not an objective or universal field. There are plenty of philosophers who do believe it's a person, and many who don't. There are also philosophical definitions of personhood which newborns and toddlers do not meet.
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Replying to @ashboi_ @ThisIsJustToSa1 and
Well. That's why I was poking fun at the initial assertion about "leave it to the philosphers", yeah.pic.twitter.com/R6flpsliMK
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Replying to @Mythos_Media @ThisIsJustToSa1 and
I think the point is more that making assertions about humanity shouldn't be part of the discussion, but it should be about personhood. There is an objective scientific definition for what it is to be living and human, and fetuses meet this standard.
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Replying to @ashboi_ @Mythos_Media and
If anything this discussion has highlight led the fact that whether fetuses meet that definition is still up for debate.
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Replying to @mgorena @Mythos_Media and
It is literally not my dude. Fetuses are genetic members of the species Homo sapien with unique and complete DNA. They are biologically living. QED living humans
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Again, the debate is surrounding whether they are people, and there is no objective answer. However when it comes to science and biology, there is an objective answer as concrete as identifying you or I as a human.
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Exactly.
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Replying to @Mythos_Media @ashboi_ and
"what species is this fetus?" and "should a fetus be considered a person, with equivalent worth to the mother's life?" are entirely different questions. The former has a simple answer, easily defined and resolved. The latter doesn't.
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Although FWIW I trust pros like my fiance (an abortion nurse) and doctors who have committed their lives to healthcare, when they say "abortion is a necessary part of women's reproductive healthcare -- full stop" over randos on the internet who have opinions.
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