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Cryptocurrency Analyst. Bitcoin, not Blockchain. Angel Investor. Previously @Princeton.

New York, NY
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    1. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad May 3
      Replying to @SoakerPatoshi @jongulson and

      so why have central banks at all if all they do is value target Bitcoin? just hold Bitcoin. Why risk their mismanagement in targeting X when you can just hold X?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Jal (aka Juice)‏ @SoakerPatoshi May 3
      Replying to @MustStopMurad @jongulson and

      What year do you predict central banks will collapse?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Moon Rekt‏ @Moon__Rekt May 3
      Replying to @SoakerPatoshi @MustStopMurad and

      I’m on Murad’s side. Why would you not just hold Bitcoin instead of depending on a central bank keeping their currency steady with Bitcoin?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Jal (aka Juice)‏ @SoakerPatoshi May 3
      Replying to @Moon__Rekt @MustStopMurad and

      If their values are stable with each other, there is no such distinction.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad May 3
      Replying to @SoakerPatoshi @Moon__Rekt and

      With Bitcoin you are 100% you have the value of Bitcoin, with your central bank targeting, you can only be 75% sure. Why take the unnecessary risk when you can own Bitcoin in a self-sovereign, unseizable manner? You’re taking unnecessary counterparty risks in your thesis

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Jal (aka Juice)‏ @SoakerPatoshi May 3
      Replying to @MustStopMurad @Moon__Rekt and

      Murad stop and think. If the markets deem the values the same, how could you hypothetically declare they are not? THINK.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad May 3
      Replying to @SoakerPatoshi @Moon__Rekt and

      it’s more than just PRICE and VALUE. You’re ignoring the technology / capabilities / cryptography / privacy / self-sovereignty entirely.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Jal (aka Juice)‏ @SoakerPatoshi May 3
      Replying to @MustStopMurad @Moon__Rekt and

      That's stupidity. What you talk about IS value and it is conveyed through price.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad May 3
      Replying to @SoakerPatoshi @Moon__Rekt and

      If bitcoin is 0% supply growth+tech, That would require governments to continuously *contract* the money supply to be on par

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. mimaj‏ @mi__maj May 3
      Replying to @MustStopMurad @SoakerPatoshi and

      Holding Bitcoin takes an insane amount of responsibility. Most people would rather a bank manage that. Only crazy assholes like us want to hold our own keys.

      1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad May 3
      Replying to @mi__maj @SoakerPatoshi and

      Yes but holding Bitcoin at a bank is still holding Bitcoin. This guy was proposing we hold state fiat that’s pegged to bitcoin instead

      2:52 PM - 3 May 2018
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        2. mimaj‏ @mi__maj May 3
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @SoakerPatoshi and

          Also, once bitcoin stops deflating so rapidly, people will want a way to loan out their bits for an interest rate. I don't wanna search for/screen debtors and then try to collect when they dont pay. Banks are already set up to manage that. Custodian accounts have many benefits.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad May 3
          Replying to @mi__maj @SoakerPatoshi and

          I think some Banks will survive + have new Bitcoin banks. Argument was whether we need “Central” banks

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. mimaj‏ @mi__maj May 3
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @SoakerPatoshi and

          World has existed without central banks before, so that seems like a possible scenario. If they choose to adapt with a peg, they would have to do a series of major devaluations. There will always be people who want to sidestep the banks completely. But not everyone.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Jal (aka Juice)‏ @SoakerPatoshi May 3
          Replying to @mi__maj @MustStopMurad and

          Obviously if they no longer have a monopoly on money their role changes. What my contention is, is that central banks, facing a hyperbitcoinization crisis, can choose to value stabilize in unison versus bitcoin, curbing its deflationary properties to what is handable.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        6. mimaj‏ @mi__maj May 3
          Replying to @SoakerPatoshi @MustStopMurad and

          Sure. Personally I think transacting directly with btc is superior, provided it can handle the throughput, but not everyone will want to take that responsibility/burden. The ? is what % uses BTC directly and what % uses fiat peg. 80/20 perhaps? (Fiat/BTC)

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad May 3
          Replying to @mi__maj @SoakerPatoshi and

          why have Fiat peg if we can have Lightning or even centralized solutions built on top of BTC like Square Cash etc.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        8. End of conversation
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        2. mimaj‏ @mi__maj May 3
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @SoakerPatoshi and

          Yes I'm starting to think that's where the game theory leads as well. Why would a bank choose to just roll over and die? You really think 80% of the population is gonna go learn cybersecurity and everything else? Transition looks real messy though... Will pop lots of bubbles.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad May 3
          Replying to @mi__maj @SoakerPatoshi and

          If 2 million people are playing World of Warcraft and use digital gold there don’t see why others can’t either. In Africa they already use money via Android phones + UX will improve a lot

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. End of conversation
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        2. Will  🗣️  🌐‏ @FluidFluxation May 3
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @mi__maj and

          Is he really proposing that you hold one asset versus another? Or is he proposing that state fiat pegged to bitcoin is a likelihood, and provides a similar net impact as hyperbitcoinization in the purest sense?

          1 reply 3 retweets 4 likes
        3. Will  🗣️  🌐‏ @FluidFluxation May 3
          Replying to @FluidFluxation @MustStopMurad and

          I think your missing the argument he's making @MustStopMurad He's talking macro economic impacts, and your talking about individual asset preference.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        4. Jal (aka Juice)‏ @SoakerPatoshi May 3
          Replying to @FluidFluxation @MustStopMurad and

          If we have the premise that the value trends are the same, we cannot then say "but people will prefer one over the other" That the value trends are the same is an indication of equal preference.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        5. mimaj‏ @mi__maj May 3
          Replying to @SoakerPatoshi @FluidFluxation and

          So 50/50 you think? Personally I can't see more then 20% of the population choosing to use BTC directly. But 20% of the population doesn't necessarily mean 20% of the value. 50% of the monetary value could be absorbed by BTC while only 20% of the people are using it directly.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. mimaj‏ @mi__maj May 3
          Replying to @mi__maj @SoakerPatoshi and

          In 50 years, its possible that majority of population will be tech-savvy enough to use BTC directly. Strong monetary incentive to use it to avoid taxes/government friction. Many businesses are simply too large to transact under the table, but scale of enterprise is declining.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Will  🗣️  🌐‏ @FluidFluxation May 3
          Replying to @mi__maj @SoakerPatoshi and

          If bitcoin absorbs 50% of the monetary value, central banks will then stabilize against bitcoin, which in effect results in full indirect hyperbitcoinization.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad May 3
          Replying to @FluidFluxation @mi__maj and

          why hold fiat pegged to Bitcoin if you can just hold Bitcoin instead? there is a rainbow of technological advantages and utilities that holding Bitcoin directly enables that this pegged Fiat probably will not

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        9. End of conversation

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