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Cryptocurrency Analyst. Bitcoin, not Blockchain. Angel Investor. Previously @Princeton.

New York, NY
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    1. Arthur B.  🚀‏ @ArthurB Aug 29
      Replying to @koeppelmann

      Exchange costs do not naturally go to 0. At a minimum, they have to pay the market maker to hold a risky inventory.

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    2. Martin Köppelmann‏ @koeppelmann Aug 29
      Replying to @ArthurB

      Sure. I still think relying on friction (exchange costs) as part of a token model is a bad idea. In this sense assuming 0 is the most safe assumption.

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    3. Arthur B.  🚀‏ @ArthurB Aug 29
      Replying to @koeppelmann

      That's what money is though. It's what you hold when you don't know what you're going to end up buying and therefore want to maintain optionality by minimizing future transaction cost.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Martin Köppelmann‏ @koeppelmann Aug 29
      Replying to @ArthurB

      Sure. I call it meme-coins.

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    5. Arthur B.  🚀‏ @ArthurB Aug 29
      Replying to @koeppelmann

      But it boils down to transaction costs.

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    6. Martin Köppelmann‏ @koeppelmann Aug 29
      Replying to @ArthurB

      I actually think tx/exchange costs of tokenized assets or baskets of tokenized assets will be maybe even smaller then money’s. I think money relies on tx costs and might play a smaller role in a low tx cost future.

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    7. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Aug 29
      Replying to @koeppelmann @ArthurB

      nothing will ever be more liquid than the most commonly accepted money. Money's very reason for existence is to be the most liquid commodity.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. John B‏ @JohnBeboWebo Aug 29
      Replying to @MustStopMurad @koeppelmann @ArthurB

      What if asset tokenization enables a solution to the double coincidence of wants such that money is no longer needed at all?

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    9. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Aug 29
      Replying to @JohnBeboWebo @koeppelmann @ArthurB

      which stock is gonna be more liquid than money?

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    10. John B‏ @JohnBeboWebo Aug 29
      Replying to @MustStopMurad @koeppelmann @ArthurB

      Why would liquid money be needed if all assets are liquid? Why not hold purely “productive” or real assets as tokenized fractions that can be seamlessly redeemed and spent as needed?

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      Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Aug 29
      Replying to @JohnBeboWebo @koeppelmann @ArthurB

      because money is an asset with lowest idiosyncratic risk at full maturity & full voluntary adoption (think gold in 1880s) no other asset is less risky

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        2. John B‏ @JohnBeboWebo Aug 29
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @koeppelmann @ArthurB

          Since gold approximates inflation over the long term, would a CPI-esque basket of commodities not accomplish the same thing?

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        3. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Aug 29
          Replying to @JohnBeboWebo @koeppelmann @ArthurB

          No, because Bitcoin has a superior stock-to-flow ratio over *any* commodity in the world.

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        4. John B‏ @JohnBeboWebo Aug 29
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @koeppelmann @ArthurB

          That is true and of course only getting better. If we suppose that tokenization does eliminate the transactional demand for money, any figures on how large the remaining asset demand for money as a store of value would be?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Aug 29
          Replying to @JohnBeboWebo @koeppelmann @ArthurB

          Actually I believe if Bitcoin succeeds in its fixed-supply form, the total amount of wealth held in it, in 2018 USD terms, will be higher than $90T currently held in Fiat. Think about it. If $90T is held in inflationary/dilutable/depreciating instruments today, how big BTC'll be.

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        6. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Aug 29
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @JohnBeboWebo and

          real estate, stocks, bonds etc. right now are overvalued because fiat is shit

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. John B‏ @JohnBeboWebo Aug 29
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @koeppelmann @ArthurB

          I would could certainly settle for that 😃. Is $90T total current supply? I’m wondering how big of a subtraction transactional demand is. Also, gold was about 30% of total supply under the gold standard due to fractionalized fiat overlays. So $30T-ish?

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        8. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Aug 29
          Replying to @JohnBeboWebo @koeppelmann @ArthurB

          I think BTC will be $140T-$200T

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        9. John B‏ @JohnBeboWebo Aug 29
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @koeppelmann @ArthurB

          So total collapse of fiat? Why wouldn’t fiat simply harden and retain some value via a Nash ideal money scenario?

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