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Cryptocurrency Analyst. Bitcoin, not Blockchain. Angel Investor. Previously @Princeton.

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    1. arjun balaji‏ @arjunblj Jul 26

      arjun balaji Retweeted Garry BUIDL Tan

      Cryptocurrencies 👏🏽 are 👏🏽 not 👏🏽 software 👏🏽 platforms 👏🏽https://twitter.com/garrytan/status/1022449295927037957 …

      arjun balaji added,

      Garry BUIDL TanVerified account @garrytan
      Replying to @mdudas @QWQiao and 2 others
      Show me the developer docs on the new dApp platforms and what can I build on them? It’s not inconceivable that something will come along, but I think we will have a lot of Palm OS and Symbian and yes even Windows Mobile saber rattling before we see an Android platform
      5 replies 8 retweets 51 likes
    2. panek‏ @panekkkk Jul 26
      Replying to @arjunblj

      He’s making a correct assumption: ⬆️ Tooling/Documentation = ⬆️ Developers/Network Effects = ⬆️ Users/Utility = ⬆️ Moneyness

      1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
    3. arjun balaji‏ @arjunblj Jul 26
      Replying to @panekkkk

      Disagree with your induction & conclusion but if you are right, I look forward to serving my Silicon Valley overlords.

      1 reply 1 retweet 8 likes
    4. panek‏ @panekkkk Jul 26
      Replying to @arjunblj

      I don’t see why it’s that complex a conclusion. It’s not that dissimilar from Bitcoin. Utility and network effect (think of this simply as “attention”) very likely draws investor interest. I’d love to hear the counter-argument.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Jul 26
      Replying to @panekkkk @arjunblj

      I agree with you that utility helps but Moneyness is 90%+ of the importance here

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    6. panek‏ @panekkkk Jul 26
      Replying to @MustStopMurad @arjunblj

      Right. So what becomes more like money? That thing that people are buying *only* to hold to ⬆️ in value? Or that thing that has greater utility for spending, gives them more network connections to spend w/ (think Metcalfe’s), produces yield when holding to offset inflation?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. panek‏ @panekkkk Jul 26
      Replying to @panekkkk @MustStopMurad @arjunblj

      Bitcoiners are convinced SOV comes first but the transition to an MOE could be decades away. In that time, ETH or another less frictional (ie more MOE) crypto could be the currency of the Internet. This is absolutely the biggest threat to Bitcoin’s moneyness.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. panek‏ @panekkkk Jul 26
      Replying to @panekkkk @MustStopMurad @arjunblj

      I’m becoming increasingly convinced that this is the crux of the new currency wars: SOV first vs SOV/MOE simultaneously. I think both may win in the medium term but potentially only one wins very long term.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Jul 26
      Replying to @panekkkk @arjunblj

      In Bitcoin SOV/MOE is developing simultaneously as well... (Lightning etc.) It's just SOV is leading the way. The ETH path to dominance is exactly the same as BTC, monetarily speaking. If I believed that ETH is the big winner and can still go 300x, I wouldn't spend any. at all.

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        2. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Jul 26
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @panekkkk @arjunblj

          Holding (the longer the better) is what makes currency accrue value. Spending doesn't make it accrue value, if anything, too much spending hurts value accrual.

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. panek‏ @panekkkk Jul 26
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @arjunblj

          ETH will be held. POS absolutely assures this. But it will also be spent.

          2 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
        4. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Jul 26
          Replying to @panekkkk @arjunblj

          will more wealth opt to hold BTC or ETH? I'd argue BTC has a greater track record of perceived safety, trust and immutability, and a more robust monetary policy

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        5. Cryptowire {BTC Class of 2013}‏ @cryptow1re Jul 26
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @panekkkk @arjunblj

          It won't be zero sum, Murad. Wealth will be stored in *many* PoS systems in addition to a few PoW systems (BTC, DCR, ZEC, etc) Whether the market recognizes long-term staking in PoS system as a SoV is tbd.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. P.Miller‏ @PMillerCoin Jul 26
          Replying to @cryptow1re @MustStopMurad and

          That doesn't really make sense though. There's an infinite number of altcoins to spread liquidity over. We've already cycled through thousands. Do you expect people to keep moving value and liquidity from one shitcoin to the next? That is entirely uneconomical and insecure.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Cryptowire {BTC Class of 2013}‏ @cryptow1re Jul 26
          Replying to @PMillerCoin @MustStopMurad and

          There are a thousand+ prematurely built altcoins (app coins) but only a few PoS systems (blockchains) to be staked.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Jul 26
          Replying to @cryptow1re @panekkkk @arjunblj

          I’m trying to figure out if it will be Winner-Take-All or Winner-Take-Most. But it will be at least Winner-Take-Most I like to say that when all is said and done, we will have 1-4 digital moneys

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        9. Cryptowire {BTC Class of 2013}‏ @cryptow1re Jul 26
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @panekkkk @arjunblj

          I *think* the winning global, programmable, p2p currencies will be those run on the most number of computers throughout the world where the maginal cost to reach consensus on a transaction will be 1000x of today.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. panek‏ @panekkkk Jul 26
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @arjunblj

          So which is it? You’re contradicting yourself even though I agree with you. If BTC is deflationary digital gold that’s increasing in value few will be inclined to spend it. Only the very early adopters with lots of BTC will spend it but that doesn’t a thriving MOE economy make.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. panek‏ @panekkkk Jul 26
          Replying to @panekkkk @MustStopMurad @arjunblj

          It’s fair that ⬆️ in value ⬇️ spendability of ETH but some inflation + greater utility/network connections/network effects greases the wheels. Granted these are all assumptions. It’s possible that LN takes off and more connections form in BTC but that seems less likely.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Jul 26
          Replying to @panekkkk @arjunblj

          People will spend BTC after $10T and if other people demand to get paid in BTC for their goods, services and labor. As BTC market cap increases the disincentives to spend are gradually decreased because the % gains left ahead also decreases, as there's only so much wealth in wrld

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. panek‏ @panekkkk Jul 26
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @arjunblj

          Yeah I know the thesis just pointing out one reason that hypothesis might be flawed. SOV first attracts white collar investors. SOV+MOE attracts the blue collar general public. I know which I’d rather attract to gain adoption as a money.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Gabe Bassin‏ @gabebassin Jul 26
          Replying to @panekkkk @MustStopMurad @arjunblj

          I dont know if I would call ETH (if thats your implication) a blue collar magnet. Not to say BTC is either but just saying. Also, is it even a fair statement to say that ETH is a SOV/MOE? My view is that neither are real MOE at this point but BTC has better SOV characteristics.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        7. panek‏ @panekkkk Jul 26
          Replying to @gabebassin @MustStopMurad @arjunblj

          Yeah it’s a very loose analogy and doesn’t really apply to ETH or the present state of things (we’re all mostly techie-leaning early adopters at this point in time).

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Jul 26
          Replying to @panekkkk @gabebassin @arjunblj

          I think you really wanna attract the rich

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. panek‏ @panekkkk Jul 26
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @gabebassin @arjunblj

          Yah but what if you attract both? These are really loose analogies anyway and obviously from an investment perspective you don’t really care if SOV happens first or simultaneously lol. Thinking of it purely from an economic future perspective.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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