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Cryptocurrency Analyst. Bitcoin, not Blockchain. Angel Investor. Previously @Princeton.

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    1. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad May 31

      1/ You can theoretically have quadrillions ‘passing’ through Ethereum and ether could still not acquire much of a SoV monetary premium, and deep inside you know this to be true.

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    2. Dan Zuller‏ @danzuller Jun 2
      Replying to @MustStopMurad

      1/ Agree, the growth potential will be slower (than BTC). If fiat comes into ETH to go to an ERC token, ETH sold to purchase the ERC token gets collected by the ERC token team. As long as they don’t sell that ETH for fiat, the demand can outpace the supply & the value grows.

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    3. Dan Zuller‏ @danzuller Jun 2
      Replying to @danzuller @MustStopMurad

      2/ This is also assuming demand growth outpaces supply growth, which is another force bringing friction to the value growth. Point is, the pass-through factor is okay for the network so long as ETH continues to be held by sellers of ERC tokens.

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    4. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Jun 2
      Replying to @danzuller

      1. Your first point assumes pre-ICO and ICO conditions; post-market liquidity this is not the case. 2. There will be token issuances on multiple SC platforms. 3. The entire process will be increasingly frictionless and instantaneous, with ETH/SC token holding periods going down.

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      Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Jun 2
      Replying to @MustStopMurad @danzuller

      4. If ETH receivers don't want to speculate, they will increasingly be able to instantaneously transfer to Stablecoins or BTC. 5. If the world increasingly views BTC as a superior SoV to ETH, the incentives to hold ETH go down.

      6:01 AM - 2 Jun 2018
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        2. Kacper Wikieł‏ @kacperwikiel Jun 2
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @danzuller

          Your argument is invalid -> more money going to ICO's -> higher ethereum pricepic.twitter.com/1teNvymsu2

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        3. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Jun 2
          Replying to @kacperwikiel @danzuller

          I think the amount of money raised by utility token ICOs will go down over time.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Kacper Wikieł‏ @kacperwikiel Jun 2
          Replying to @MustStopMurad @danzuller

          Category "other" on coinmarketcap is growing. Ethereum is really useful as fundraising platform and I would expect even more money to be sloshing and captured by ETH + ERC20 tokenspic.twitter.com/27N6KPGq7B

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        5. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Jun 2
          Replying to @kacperwikiel @danzuller

          If ETH doesn’t become seen as a SoV, interoperability + abstraction + frictionlessness + seamless DEXes + atomic swaps will make that “near-term” holding period get shorter and shorter, potentially driving ETH velocity higher, and hence, price lower.

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        2. Dan Zuller‏ @danzuller Jun 2
          Replying to @MustStopMurad

          I think we’re speaking the same language. If there is no incentive to hold ETH other than for near-term use, then it’s value proposition as a long-term SoV goes down.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Murad Mahmudov  🚀‏ @MustStopMurad Jun 2
          Replying to @danzuller

          I agree. I’d also add that, if ETH doesn’t become seen as a SoV, interoperability + abstraction + frictionlessness + seamless DEXes + atomic swaps will make that “near-term” period get shorter and shorter, potentially driving ETH velocity higher, and hence, price lower.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Dan Zuller‏ @danzuller Jun 2
          Replying to @MustStopMurad

          Higher velocity doesn’t always translate to lower price. If the rate of velocity growth exceeds the rate of “GDP” growth (PQ) then yes, it will translate to a lower price & weaken the case for hodling.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Kacper Wikieł‏ @kacperwikiel Jun 2
          Replying to @danzuller @MustStopMurad

          pic.twitter.com/Z3GQ78924Y

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        6. Dan Zuller‏ @danzuller Jun 2
          Replying to @kacperwikiel @MustStopMurad

          Could you clarify what we are looking at with this chart?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. nic carter‏ @nic__carter Jun 2
          Replying to @danzuller @kacperwikiel @MustStopMurad

          Looks like NVT left axis and network value right axis

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        8. Kacper Wikieł‏ @kacperwikiel Jun 2
          Replying to @nic__carter @danzuller @MustStopMurad

          I love this tool - it's great tool for quick rebuttal of not data driven tweets ;) Usually intuition about SoV/Velocity is wrong

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        9. nic carter‏ @nic__carter Jun 2
          Replying to @kacperwikiel @danzuller @MustStopMurad

          I agree with your point - velocity isn’t exerting itself yet for many reasons - but Ethereum NVT is misleading there (my bad...) going to publish something on the topic soon

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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