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    1. Phoebe Maltz Bovy‏Verified account @tweetertation 8 Jun 2019
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      Nodded along to much of this, but ack, privilege disclaimer: https://nyti.ms/2XA87pt pic.twitter.com/kD9NyHEsql

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    2. Phoebe Maltz Bovy‏Verified account @tweetertation 8 Jun 2019
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      Setting aside the question of kale affordability as barrier (though Toronto's $1 mega-bunches may be throwing me off...), some thoughts...

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    3. Phoebe Maltz Bovy‏Verified account @tweetertation 8 Jun 2019
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      First off: the eating disorder and disordered eating the author describes are... legitimate things to speak out about. Not fancy-white-lady *problems*, regardless of her own demographics. It counts!

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    4. Phoebe Maltz Bovy‏Verified account @tweetertation 8 Jun 2019
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      Next: It *is* valuable to also hear about issues like these from people from demographics not heard from as often about them. Not esp valuable: a gesture, from someone without specific knowledge of how those experiences would be different, at how surely those experiences must be

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    5. Phoebe Maltz Bovy‏Verified account @tweetertation 8 Jun 2019
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      Next: All discussion of individual experience and suffering doesn't need to be ranked! Or, even, can't be. As in, it's not even, on an individual basis, *knowable* where her suffering in a specific area stacks up against that of whole swaths of the population

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    6. Phoebe Maltz Bovy‏Verified account @tweetertation 8 Jun 2019
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      I would - yes, sorry, repeating myself here - *much* prefer to just hear more varied stories (*including* ones like this one! none of this 'ban the old-type stories' - keep and add!) than this gesturing-at-other-stories compromise

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    7. Phoebe Maltz Bovy‏Verified account @tweetertation 8 Jun 2019
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      The compromise only serves to dismiss the story told as insignificant (which it's not!) and to offer a well-intentioned-seeming but for all the reader knows, inaccurate hint at what other experiences might be like

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    8. Katrina Gulliver‏Verified account @katrinagulliver 8 Jun 2019
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      It's the hypocrisy of it - either the author thinks her issues are relatively trivial (in which case why should she be taking up real estate in a major newspaper?) Or she thinks they're real, and that privilege stuff is just a pose.

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    9. Phoebe Maltz Bovy‏Verified account @tweetertation 8 Jun 2019
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      Yes, if it's coming from author and (as per @MoustacheClubUS) not editor. Could be, she thinks the problems are plenty real, but was advised that she'd come across as clueless if she didn't hedge

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    10. Oliver Bateman Does the Work‏Verified account @MoustacheClubUS 8 Jun 2019
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      Though I’ve found myself reflexively adding this stuff when writing for, say, the Atlantic, because I know it’s likely to be added anyway as a kind CYA measure

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      Oliver Bateman Does the Work‏Verified account @MoustacheClubUS 8 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @MoustacheClubUS @tweetertation @katrinagulliver

      I just did a thing on “muscle in 2019” for them in which I omitted a lengthy privilege check (my background is easily accessible online if necessary). I wonder if it will be added

      6:53 PM - 8 Jun 2019 from Pittsburgh, PA
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        1. Phoebe Maltz Bovy‏Verified account @tweetertation 8 Jun 2019
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          I think there are places where mentioning biographical info is necessary in order to avoid seeming like you're *hiding* the info. But more in the sense of, like, someone writing about their career trajectory and not mentioning a famous parent

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