1/ One fundamental disconnect between left civil libertarians and right civil libertarians is that the L variety try to build rapport by giving the credentials: "he's black", "he's in a tux". The only thing I care about is "did the cop have a valid reason to attack?"https://twitter.com/davidminpdx/status/994582929975234560 …
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6/ But in the scenario: * cop has plausible reason to suspect a crime has been committed * cop commands suspect to stop * suspect does not stop * cop grabs suspect by arm or shoulder * suspect resists * cop uses more force (throws to ground) ...I see nothing wrong.
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7/ Absolutely. And you've got to be prepared with the script "am I being detained? What specific articulable fact gives you reason to suspect I committed a crime? Am I free to go?"https://twitter.com/thepiclord/status/994585424734629888 …
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8/ When you ask "am I being detained?" if they answer "no", you respond "I'm leaving. Good bye." If they reuse to answer an ask you questions, alternate between "Am I being detained?" and "I don't answer questions without a lawyer present".
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9/ True. But I'd rather not be tackled, have my rotator cuffs torn as my arms are wrenched behind my back, and then "win" in court later. I'd prefer to stop and ask "am I being detained?"https://twitter.com/thepiclord/status/994586026189434881 …
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10/ To recap: victim is a white guy in a tux? don't care victim is a black guy in a tux? don't care victim is white guy in a wife-beater? don't care victim is black guy in a wife-beater? don't care All I care is if force is reasonable given suspected crime and resistance
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11/ I agree with the right to resist unreasonable arrest, but (a) you'll probably end up dead if you try it, (b) if you don't, you'll probably end up in jail (maybe for life), (c) every example I gave was of REASONABLE arrest (even if wrong).https://twitter.com/FreddyMagnus/status/994635085214203906 …
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