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I'm in. What say you, @AlexNowrasteh & @CatoInstitute ? https://twitter.com/Ornery_Opinions/status/993900206671282176 …
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95/ let's dig into
@AlexNowrasteh 's first link Interestingly, he doesn't deny that the data says that immigrants lean anti-liberty (as he did in his thread with me). He does brush it aside, though, with 5 rationalizations:Show this thread -
96/ 1) "...but immigration is good!" which...
2) "muh tacos!"
3) "yes, they're socialists...but the difference is 2.75 vs 3.18 on a 5 point scale, so only a difference of 8.6% of scale range, so MAYBE won't tip elections"
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97/ 4) Natives in Berkeley are even more commie than new immigrants, so what's the harm in shifting things towards more socialism if we've already got commies here? 5) we only suffer the political consequences (higher taxes & more regulation) for 80 or 100 years, so NBD >>>
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98/ oh, I misread - he has more "rebuttals" 6) sure, they're commies, but they don't vote (which is good news, I guess, until you realize that (a) their kids and grandkids are also leftists and DO vote, (b) Dems are good at get-out-the-vote organizing >>>
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99/ 7) we'll pile all the socialist immigrants in urban areas which already vote blue, so they have no effect on national elections (unless, that is, the Constitution gives more electoral votes to states based on population...anyone know if that's how it works?
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100/ Anway, I find it quite interesting that
@AlexNowrasteh admitted all of my points re his paper back on 3 Dec 2013, and then played dumb with me for several days, saying that my points were incorrect bc I'd read his paper wrong. >>>Show this thread -
101/ Alex was willing to cop to to the truth when he was called on it by Professor Hal Pashler of UCSD, but then 4.5 years passed and I independently made the exact same observations, and because I'm a nobody
@AlexNowrasteh called me a "cowardly anonymous troll".
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103/ Dude, the only one in this thread who is confused on the difference between "by X percent" and "by X points" is you. It's OK. The rest of us get it, and we're not angry or upset at you. But join us in proper and accepted usage.https://twitter.com/SpikerIsAwesome/status/993928607692197888 …
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105/ Here's the side-by-side showing that
@AlexNowrasteh understood the objections as valid 4.5 years ago but then stonewalled and dismissed my independent discovery of the issue as "anonymous trolling" (The@CatoInstitute logo is nice and crisp, reminding us all WBTI.)pic.twitter.com/uvA0pyVCQO
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@wraithburn got@AlexNowrasteh to admit that first generation immigrants do in facto vote more Dem than natives. (just like their children and grandchildren do) Question for@CatoInstitute - why are you in favor of more immigration when your own ppl say they vote Dem?pic.twitter.com/Y1slJvegKz
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106/ LOL,
@AlexNowrasteh now has the assistance of some white knight who is connecting traits like!e "uses logic to dissect propaganda" & "wants a retraction of false data" to white supremacy. Good points;@AlexNowrasteh and@CatoInstitute should adopt!https://twitter.com/Sxeptomaniac/status/993887383064989696?s=19 …Show this thread -
107/ yes, that was choice; let me dig it up so that others may enjoy...https://twitter.com/wraithburn/status/994561014132822017 …
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@AlexNowrasteh engages lots of credentialism and ad hominems: calls people "trolls", "anonymous", "fools", etc. The one thing he won't do is admit that his immigration plans are bad for American liberty (...according to the GSS data that underlies his white papers!)Show this thread -
110/ I see
@AlexNowrasteh and@CatoInstitute have another paper. "Immigrants...consume a lower dollar value of benefits than native-born Americans." Interesting. One question: given that benefits are funded by progressive income taxes, who pays?https://twitter.com/CatoInstitute/status/994656789668028421 …
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111/ Given that most immigrants are poor, and poor people in the US pay close to zero in income taxes, I'll bet
@AlexNowrasteh a nickel that immigrants take more out of the welfare system than they pay into it. Want to make that bet@AlexNowrasteh ?Show this thread
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