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    1. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

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      52/ Aha! OK, this is a valid answer. Thank you!https://twitter.com/AlexNowrasteh/status/993518615180861440 …

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      The Alex Nowrasteh @AlexNowrasteh
      Replying to @MorlockP @CatoInstitute @HvonSpakovsky
      You guys keep ignoring my response: By the time immigrants become citizens, their opinions in graphs 18 and 19 are the same as natives. Read the text of the paper.
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    2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

      53/ The problem is that there's selection bias. What you're saying is that of the entire population of immigrants, slice X is comparable to natives, but slice Y is not. OK, great. Two objections: 1) it's incorrect.

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    3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

      54/ Look at your own figure 18. Left cluster: 20% of natives want government to reduce income differences, 23% of citizen immigrants so. Right cluster: 14% of natives prefer no gov action. 7% of citizen immigrants do These gaps are noticeable and have real policy implications!

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    4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

      55/ Second objection: this is selection bias! You have not proven that waving a wand at an immigrant makes them only 23% likely to want income redistribution (as compared to a native at 20%).

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    5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

      56/ You have proven that THOSE IMMIGRANTS WHO have the means / patience / education / lawyer fees to become citizens are only slightly more socialist than natives. A South African doctor is not a Mexican farm worker. "becomes citizen" is a filter.

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    6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted The Alex Nowrasteh

      57/ I didn't misread anything, @AlexNowrasteh . YOUR OWN GRAPHS show that immigrants - even the non-representative sub-sample that choose to become citizens - vote for more taxes and more welfare than do natives. You muted me because you got embarrassed and couldn't refute.https://twitter.com/AlexNowrasteh/status/993572462016303104 …

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      The Alex Nowrasteh @AlexNowrasteh
      As I explained multiple times, @morlockp's argument comes from a misreading of the figures & of the text in my report. I muted him after he repeated himself ~75x in tweets TODAY. There's only so much one can say after the other person doesn't acknowledge their initial misreading https://twitter.com/peterbrimelow/status/993571616092295168 …
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    7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

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      58/ Issue is that Alex's data is cohort data, not a time series. He's picking the 30-40% of immigrants who do choose to become citizens and showing that they're SLIGHTLY MORE SOCIALIST than natives...and ignores the other 60-70%. Also >>> https://twitter.com/ap_janakiraman/status/993575223411654656 …

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    8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

      59/ In other tables he shows that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants (who are citizens by birthright) are markedly more socialist than natives. So immigration tends to create 2-3 generations of socialists citizen voters.

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    9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted The Alex Nowrasteh

      60/ I liked to it three different times, @AlexNowrasteh. Let's go for four, shall we? https://www.cato.org/publications/economic-development-bulletin/immigrants-assimilate-political-mainstream …https://twitter.com/AlexNowrasteh/status/993575236883886080 …

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      The Alex Nowrasteh @AlexNowrasteh
      I find it odd that @morlockP rarely links to the original source material. When he does, he then quickly tweets a lot to obscure the original link, almost like he's trying to hide it (see, anybody can insinuate bad motives).
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    10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

      61/ In his last 6 tweets, Alex has complained: - he's muted me because I tweet too much - I "rarely" link to his URL (just 3 times in 55 tweets) 🤔

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      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted The Alex Nowrasteh

      62/ Alex, I read the OED for fun. I am able to answer nerd questions like "what's a trigraph in the C programming language?" because I read the appendices. I read your paper. I READ THE DAMNED FOOTNOTES and went off and looked up some of the sources.https://twitter.com/AlexNowrasteh/status/993583047118413824 …

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      The Alex Nowrasteh @AlexNowrasteh
      Replying to @badbrahmin
      Well, that's a silly response. My self-described "possible reasons," which are not an exclusive list, also includes one of @morlockp's criticisms that you're trumpeting. I assume it's because @morlockp didn't read the paper. And neither did you.
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        2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted The Alex Nowrasteh

          63/ So you're saying that my point that ON AVERAGE immigrants are markedly more socialist than natives is in your paper? Yes, agreed. I found it at several points in there. The only thing I'm asking is: given that, why do you support immigration? >>>https://twitter.com/AlexNowrasteh/status/993585292325064704 …

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          The Alex Nowrasteh @AlexNowrasteh
          Replying to @MorlockP
          Sure doesn't sound like it given your repetitive replies to points I addressed here & in my paper. Why don't you go ahead and post your resume? I'm sure that will prove that some of your criticisms, which I listed in my paper, weren't really in my paper.
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        3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

          64/ ...and why do you title your paper "Immigrants Assimilate into the Political Mainstream" when your own data shows that they don't, their children don't, their GRAND children don't...and their great grandchildren do?

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        4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

          65/ Also, on a tangent: it's kind of tautological to say that "the 4th generation assimilates into the political mainstream", because by the fourth generation the ARE the polity. The great grandkids of Irish in 1920 are mainstream? OF COURSE WE ARE, we make up 10% of pop.

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        5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

          66/ So in the same way, I am absolutely sure that the great grandchildren of Syrians brought into the US in 2018 will be part of the mainstream culture in 2090 Who knows - they might support clitorectomies, which - by dint of popular support - is on the platform of both parties

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        6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

          67/ Or perhaps they'll support socialism...which might very well be in the mainstream with 50% of people in 2090 supporting it. Your paper is titled "Immigrants Assimilate into the Political Mainstream" and NOT "Immigrants Assimilate into the Small Gov / Pro Liberty politics"

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        7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted The Alex Nowrasteh

          68/ No, I didn't. I spoke over and over of "immigrants". I didn't say anything about "citizens" or "non citizens".https://twitter.com/AlexNowrasteh/status/993586359079227395 …

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          The Alex Nowrasteh @AlexNowrasteh
          First, @morlockp confused noncitizens w/ citizens in every figure in my paper. Second, he assumed that I discounted self-selection explanations for naturalization even though I mentioned them in my conclusion. I'm not interested in responding anymore to such sloppy criticisms. https://twitter.com/badbrahmin/status/993584290867896320 …
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        8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

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          69/ https://twitter.com/LibertyFarmNH/status/993591650462130176 …

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        9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

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          70/ https://twitter.com/AppFlyer/status/993591405279924224 …

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        10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

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          71/ @AlexNowrasteh I was reviewing the thread and realized I still haven't gotten an answer to the one question I was asking. Care to answer?https://twitter.com/MorlockP/status/993506396758073344 …

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          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs @MorlockP
          Alex, I went through your @CatoInstitute white-paper and quoted from it and annotated several of your graphs. Your own white paper shows that immigrants vote for Democrats, more government, and more welfare. Do you agree with that characterization - yes or no? If no, why not? https://twitter.com/AlexNowrasteh/status/993505608933527553 …
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        11. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted mandatummandat

          72/ They matter because their CHILDREN are citizens and vote, and @AlexNowrasteh 's data shows that they vote for bigger government and more taxes. Not until the FOURTH generation do they vote like natives So every immigrant creates 100 years of D voteshttps://twitter.com/mandatum1979/status/993662202329620480?s=19 …

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          mandatummandat @mandatum1979
          Replying to @MorlockP @AlexNowrasteh
          Why do the other 60-70% matter if they can't vote?
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        12. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 7 May 2018

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          73/ It's not a 3% difference; it's more like 20+%. ...and I'm not asking for a "safe space" free of bad opinions. I'm asking that @AlexNowrasteh and @CatoInstitute not import socialist voters who will raise my taxes and increase gov. Different thing. https://twitter.com/charliesixtwo/status/993678936428204032?s=19 …

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        13. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted The Alex Nowrasteh

          74/ You keep saying that, @AlexNowrasteh, but it's not true. My criticisms were all entirely correct. See figures 9, 12, 18, and 20 in your whitepaper. cc @DaytimeRenegade, @kaijubushi, @mgcat, @ne_8686https://twitter.com/AlexNowrasteh/status/993865679643299841 …

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          The Alex Nowrasteh @AlexNowrasteh
          @morlockp misread graphs & misstated my conclusion in the paper he was criticizing. I pointed that out & he sent me a long, partially coherent twitter thread so I blocked him. If that's your standard, then so be it.
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        14. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

          75/ @AlexNowrasteh your one defense is "look at figure 18, and look ONLY at the immigrants who become citizens...they're not so bad". My rebuttal: that's a subset of all immigrants. ON AVERAGE, immigrants want much more taxation and redistribution...AND SO DO THEIR CHILDREN!

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        15. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

          76/ @AlexNowrasteh let's refer back to YOUR OWN WHITE PAPER again, specifically figures 3 and 4. Figure 4 shows that about 16% of natives are "strong democrats". Figure 3 shows that 11% of non-citizens natives and 20% of citizen natives are strong dems.pic.twitter.com/esQZT0JtzV

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        16. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

          77/ You keep arguing as if this is time-series data, not cohort data (which it is). Fine. I give up on explaining the difference to you, but let's just assume you're correct. If so, then your policy of giving immigrants citizenship makes them MORE socialist, not less!

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        17. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

          78/ So we have natives who are 16% "strong Dems". And then we have your 1st generation citizen immigrants who are 20% strong Dems...even three generations later. The difference between 16% and 20% means that these people are 25% more likely to be hardcore socialists.

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        18. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

          79/ Don't want to look just at the hardline leftists, but at the softer Hillary-Clinton mainstream lefties? YOUR OWN DATA shows 16% of natives in the "not strong (D)" category. 1st gen citizen immigrants? 23% 2nd gen? 22% 3rd gen? 17% 16 vs 23 is 43% increase.

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        19. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

          80/ So, @AlexNowrasteh YOUR OWN DATA shows that: * 1st generation citizen immigrants are 25% more likely to be "strong D" * 1st generation citizen immigrants are 43% more likely to be "not strong (D)" * 2nd gen are 40% more likely to be "not strong (D)" * 3rd gen are 8% more

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        20. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

          81/ In short, YOUR OWN DATA shows that immigrants push the electorate to the left for 3+ generations. Point blank question: do you agree or disagree with this? Don't tell me "read the report" Don't say "you misunderstand" Just answer the question: do immigrants push us left?

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        21. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

          82/ yes or no simple question, @AlexNowrasteh and @CatoInstitute Does the data from the GSS that you use in your whitepaper demonstrate that immigrants, their children, and their grandchildren vote further left than natives? yes or nohttps://www.cato.org/publications/economic-development-bulletin/immigrants-assimilate-political-mainstream …

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        22. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

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          83/ You are incorrect. If X is 1% likely to happen and doing thing Y changes that to making it 2% likely, we say that Y "doubles the chances". When I said that X's are "25% more likely to Z than Y's are to Z", I was using the correct phrasing.https://twitter.com/SpikerIsAwesome/status/993880410269585408 …

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          SpikerIsAwesome @SpikerIsAwesome
          Replying to @MorlockP
          This is not how math works. Take 2 groups of 100 people each. Group A has 16 Dems. Group B has 20 (of 100) Dems. That is a 25% increase of a small number, but not a 25% increase in likelihood. Take the difference (4) out of the total n (100). Group B is 4% more likely.
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        23. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

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          84/ I'm in. What say you, @AlexNowrasteh & @CatoInstitute ? https://twitter.com/Ornery_Opinions/status/993900206671282176 …

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        24. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

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          85/ The diff isn't a mere 3%. 1st gen immigrants (citizens) are 25% more likely to be strong D. ...and 43% more likely to be soft D. 2nd gen are 40% more likely to be soft D. 3rd gen are 8% more likely to be soft D. This is huge; will flip elections. https://twitter.com/charliesixtwo/status/993907583135244289 …

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        25. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

          86/ as for argument "Obama got elected in 2008" ... so what? You're basically saying "we already vote hard left...so what's more hard leftism?" Voters repudiated Obama by electing Trump instead of Obama-endorsed HRC. ...and it was close! The closeness means margins matter!

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        26. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

          87/ Finally, @charliesixtwo , whether "nearly 100%" of people want to use gov to reduce income inequality" doesn't matter when we have data on whether people want gov to be MORE or LESS active in doing so. Right now it's evenly split. More immigrants means more redistribution.

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        27. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

          88/ And you and @AlexNowrasteh and other progs want MORE redistribution, so you want more immigrants. We get that. ...and we disagree.

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        28. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted The Alex Nowrasteh

          89/ @AlexNowrasteh claims to have muted me (I don't think he has, but that's neither here nor there). Folks, do me this favor: @ him & ask simple question "do first gen immigrants vote for Dems more than natives - yes or no?" If you're feeling frisky, ask the same re 2nd gen.https://twitter.com/AlexNowrasteh/status/993872393310539780 …

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          The Alex Nowrasteh @AlexNowrasteh
          Everyone keeps telling me this & nobody explains why. I muted the original guy after I showed that his two big criticisms were the result of him misreading two graphs & skipping my conclusion because he sent me an additional ~75 sometimes tweets in response. https://twitter.com/ne_8686/status/993868138679762945 …
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        29. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

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          90/ I'm not "preemptively attacking" anyone - I'm just expressing my preference that groups that on average want more socialism should not be brought into the country and given political power. As far as opposing socialists already here - yes, I do that https://twitter.com/charliesixtwo/status/993913140273393664 …

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        30. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

          91/ As far as the fact that some ethnic groups already here lean heavily socialist - well, that helps make my point and destroy yours, doesn't it? If we had not encouraged group X and Y and Z to come here, we'd have lower taxes and socialism today. We agree!

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        31. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 8 May 2018

          92/ This does not lead me to be antihispanic or antisemitic. I'm capable of disaggregation. I oppose the socialists and welcome the the help of the libertarians, of group X and Y and Z. That, however, is consistent with not bringing in more socialists.

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