The Tao that nobody has either figured out how to, or bothered to, explain, so far, MIGHT be the true Tao, but christ on crutches don't you think it's about time somebody did?
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Replying to @random_eddie
I didn't say "no one has bothered to explain [ well ] " - I said "no one has explained well TO YOU". Also, we each have intellectual blind spots. Perhaps something HAS been explained pretty well but you either missed crucial detail or are on a local maxima & don't want to leave
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Replying to @MorlockP @random_eddie
also, economics imagine someone has a GREAT point of view. It would really help me, a ton. They try to explain it to me. It sounds crazy. I say "this sounds crazy". They say "trust me - after 200 hours of listening, you'll get it". I - w no proof of utility - say "no"
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Replying to @MorlockP @random_eddie
this could be called a market failure perhaps there should be some contract / instrument that makes evangelization a paying enterprise. Guy finds a fiscal backer, signs him up, gets me to sign "I will listen for 200 hours...for $20,000" contract. He pays me, I listen >>>
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Replying to @MorlockP @random_eddie
at end I AM convinced, and clause 2 of the contract is invoked "if I agree that this is great and has > $40,000 of utility, I will pay back the $20,000 I received, plus another $5k". Short of that, truths with high bar to entrance will be underdelivered, no?
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Replying to @MorlockP
You're treating as abstract a comment that I meant very concretely. I was talking specifically about various claims regarding meditation, enlightenment, and certain aspects of Eastern philosophy / religious traditions.
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Replying to @MorlockP
Okay, fair enough. Some people say that enlightenment can't be explained. ("GET OUT OF THE CAR!") I respond that one of these two is true: a) "It can't be explained BY YOU. But it could be explained." or b) "That's not enlightenment. It's just bullshit."
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Replying to @random_eddie
We're on the same page. 99% I tend to think that it's almost always BS. ...but I'm open to the idea that "can't" means "usually isn't", and that there are some things that human brains can't learn via words but only by practice.
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Replying to @MorlockP
I'll go a step further, and absolutely agree that one cannot experience "what it's like" without actually experiencing it. And that there are aspects of experience that are important and which cannot be conveyed. But people conflate this with being unable to "understand" it.
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One thing I find useful is to think about whether there is any topic where you are already on the "far side of the veil" and can imagine how you'd try to explain it to someone who was not. e.g. Explain to a medieval peasant the utility of a society where one is free to damn God.
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